Several bugs - knocked over northmen frothers, Bret longsword riposte locking, Saltz red crossbow illusion, HM half a stamina shield bug

[Drakonhammer]

• Knocked over enemies sometimes bounce up instantly when hit, skipping over the need to climb to their feet. I noticed this with northmen frothers in particular (Legend and Cata), after knocking them over with shields and other high stagger weapons (usually opportunist). Basically, one player would bash them to the ground - if nobody attacked them they’d slowly climb back up to their feet. If someone pushed and/or attacked them, sometimes they’d instantly just glitch back to a standing position even if they had just been knocked to the ground, and start their attack combo.

• With Kruber’s Bret longsword you sometimes get locked into the riposte/parry stance, especially if you just quickly hold mouse 1 for a heavy then release instead of holding it for a bit longer then releasing. Fumbling with input buffer settings seems to counteract this, but it’s annoying as it differs from host to host and still sometimes seems to happen - on some hosts I could set it to 0.2 which was comfortable, on others I had to crank it up to 0.4 to fix the problem and then I’d start having issues with other weapons (eg in chaos wastes where you can switch them). Bret longsword is a great weapon but this problem makes it incredibly frustrating to use, I can’t think of any other weapon that does this (maybe Saltz flail? Anything with a heavy that can be held indefinitely I imagine could be at risk).

• I have gotten Faithflight as a red crossbow drop twice now since the CW update (I don’t know if this problem is older or not) and, unlocks with other reds, neither time has unlocked the skin for me, I still only see Levity in the list when I go to apply an illusion. I’m concerned if I apply Levity to them I’ll lose the Faithflight skin.
  

  
  
  
  

• Handmaiden seems to have the extra half a stamina shield bug again, it occurs on all weapons like last time:
  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  

[hollerbach]

@Drakonhammer

Knocked over enemies sometimes bounce up instantly when hit, skipping over the need to climb to their feet. I noticed this with northmen frothers in particular (Legend and Cata), after knocking them over with shields and other high stagger weapons (usually opportunist). Basically, one player would bash them to the ground - if nobody attacked them they’d slowly climb back up to their feet. If someone pushed and/or attacked them, sometimes they’d instantly just glitch back to a standing position even if they had just been knocked to the ground, and start their attack combo.

This seems to be the ‘stagger overwrite’ bug, where a low stagger attack can overwrite or cancel the stagger status of a high stagger attack. This is a very old bug that has been reported multiple times over the years but is yet to be addressed:

Low amounts of stagger reset fallen enemies

Issue Summary: When enemies are knocked to the ground by a large amount of stagger (such as Foot Knight’s charge), if left alone they will take several seconds to stand back up. However, hitting the enemies while they are laying on the ground with any attack or push will cause them to switch animations to the lower amount of stagger from the new attack - that is, they will instantly go from laying flat on the ground to standing up and only lightly staggering. This not only looks bad because the …

Enemies changing to much shorter stagger state if hit mid-air after Kruber charge

Upon request by @Mentis, I looked at the stagger interactions for Kruber’s charge and a weapon. Essentially, if you hit an enemy while they’re flying from Kruber’s charge, they will get a shortened stagger state and be on their feet instead. Doing it with a melee weapon was extremely difficult but I was able to reliably reproduce the result with a ranged weapon. The following video demonstrates this bug and interaction with numerous enemies(armored enemies are much easier to replicate the bug wi…

FK Valian Charge: its stagger effect can be overwritten and and "canceled" by another source of stagger

Another source of stagger can overwrite and cancel FK Valiant Charge’s stagger. The other “source” can come from another player (ult, weapon, etc etc) or from FK himself. This can be easily tested. Pick up FK + a shielded weapon (just to make the test easier, but this happens with every source of stagger) and fight a Chaos Warrior: if you use Valiant Charge against the CW you knock down him at the ground for some seconds; BUT if you stagger the CW with a shield’s bash and THEN you use V…

State of Knight

Its kind of horrible. Valliant Charge is bugged for as long as the game is alive and his Talents either make him an averagely well frontliner, or a worse Merc. There are hardly any distinguishing factors between Knight and Merc. Both have Attack Speed Talents, both have minor Damage boosts, which both are hardly triggerable on Monsters, or bosses. Both have the ability to gain DR. The only distinguishing factors are the THP generation and Mercs passive “Hitting the Sweeet Spot” which makes him …

Valiant Charge

How to recreate that? Play Knight. Press F to Forfeit your Battering Ram self-esteem. I could post those all day long, but playing with 40 to 50 FPS while recording is no fun at all, even so, my righteous fury about this problem existing for years is nearly high enough to just post those every day. Its not even a rare occurrence. Those got taken back by back on the same run.

Enemies can have their stagger cancelled on uneven ground

Thought this was rare initially, but turns out it can happen frequently during regular gameplay. [Stagger cancel] [stagger cancel] [stagger cancel] Hmm, seems it’s all maulers. Might be exclusive to mauler-type enemies?

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I have gotten Faithflight as a red crossbow drop twice now since the CW update (I don’t know if this problem is older or not) and, unlocks with other reds, neither time has unlocked the skin for me, I still only see Levity in the list when I go to apply an illusion. I’m concerned if I apply Levity to them I’ll lose the Faithflight skin.

Another old bug. I believe Faithflight appears as a blue illusion, not a red one.

Various bugs relating to cosmetics

Bug # 1 Okay I’m actually not sure about this one but in over 3k hours, this is the first time I’m seeing it so I guess it’s a bug. Playing on the beta, I opened a loot chest and received a red weapon with no illusion, a 1h sword for Kerillian, the Glade Guardian’s Ceyl. [20200713181017_1] Bug # 2 A red crossbow illusion for Saltzpyre which I unlocked a way back is not shown in the list of illusions I can apply to Saltzpyre’s crossbows. [20200713181255_1] On this screenshot, you can see…

Red illusion displays as orange

Glided Glory Halberd shows as orange in illusion applying menu [obraz] [obraz] Faithflight crossbow for salzpyre shows as blue. [obraz] [obraz]

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Handmaiden seems to have the extra half a stamina shield bug again, it occurs on all weapons like last time:

Another very old bug or intended but undocumented feature. It is listed in A List of Everything You Wish Fatshark Told You It’s probably intended, since stamina is one of Handmaiden’s schticks.

[FatsharkJulia]

@hollerbach

Another very old bug or intended but undocumented feature. It is listed in A List of Everything You Wish Fatshark Told You It’s probably intended, since stamina is one of Handmaiden’s schtick.

Confirmed intended!

[Drakonhammer]

@hollerbach

Another very old bug or intended but undocumented feature. It is listed in A List of Everything You Wish Fatshark Told You It’s probably intended, since stamina is one of Handmaiden’s schticks.

@FatsharkJulia

@hollerbach

Another very old bug or intended but undocumented feature. It is listed in A List of Everything You Wish Fatshark Told You It’s probably intended, since stamina is one of Handmaiden’s schtick.

Confirmed intended!

Yeah, I seem to remember reporting it back around the days of WoM or so and I think back then it was still considered a bug, since I seem to remember the extra half shield getting removed for a while later. Now I wasn’t sure if FS decided to make it a permanent bonus for her or not.

@hollerbach

Another old bug. I believe Faithflight appears as a blue illusion, not a red one.

Just checked and confirmed, it appears as blue, not red as it should appear. Not so bad but still confusing.

That leaves the stagger overwrite and Kruber’s longsword getting locked into riposte stance (honestly the most disruptive one if you like using Bret LS).