#NotMyKrieg

[MrSunshine]

Greetings Darktide Players both new and old, the reason I am making this post is to hopefully gain the attention on both Fatshark as well as @FatsharkStrawHat. (The Community Manager). This is my honest feedback and something to get it out from my chest for quite a while now.

*Disclaimer: My apologize if i made any grammatical error or spelling mistakes in this post. Since this is my first time posting and this is a long-ass post FYI. *

Introduction
As all you know on December 3rd of this year Fatshark had dropped Krieg set as part of their “2nd Anniversary” and to no one surprise is Exactly the same set from last years Krieg.

This is the current Krieg set that Fatshark is selling

And this is the set that Fatshark sold last year

As you can see the difference is non-existent aside from the obvious Blue/Navy color, the only difference is that the zealot has a helmet now (Hooray! for any zealot mains). Everything especially the Veteran still remains the same and charge us 2400 Aquillas, but hey least they’re selling the Krieg backpack which we have to pay 1,100 Aquillas for. Speaking of the Veteran for the Krieg set, this is the sole reason why i’m making this post and hopefully could be addressed sooner or later. I’ll be explaining the Helmet and Coat and provide pictures on how Fatshark could fix or update the Veteran’s Krieg set which fit in 40k as well as tabletop miniatures.

1. The Krieg Helmet
Where do we even start with this one. First and foremost is the infamous gas mask, it doesn’t feel menacing and imposing is like an innocent dog/puppy with bliss and joy slaying heretics left and right.
Secondly is the infamous hose tube for the gas mask, without a doubt this to me is a Huge red flag for the Krieg set because is part of their identity and what makes them different from other stormtroopers. Heck even the “Steel Legion” got a “W” because Fatshark included a hose tube for the helmet.

If Fatshark can do this why can’t the Krieg Helmet then?

These are the problems that i have for the Krieg Helmet, now here are Solutions to fix the current Krieg helmet. Most of these post are from older post and i feel the need to include them with hopes of not abandoned nor forgotten.

Being able to change the gas mask from plastic to metallic material along with changing the goggles to not make them goofy

If Fatshark could just add the hose tube then it would be a Krieg Set

So those are the Solutions that Fatshark could fix when it comes to the Krieg Helmet, it doesn’t have to be much detail as long the helmet isn’t weird or something straight out of a cartoon.

2. The Coat
Ah yes, who could’ve had forgotten the infamous trench coat for our beloved Krieg, Everything that Fatshark done for the Coat all went a 180 turn here.
The Elephant in the Room for the coat is the rebreather/satchel for the Krieg, is bigger and wider and it also covers 90% of the chest.

And is even funnier for the second time when Fatshark “Pancaked” the Satchel so it doesn’t no clip through the weapon

See what i mean

Next is the length of the coat usually the coat should be longer and passes the knee pads this is also the same as the Commissar Set that was out last year (Might make a post about that later)

It doesn’t pass the kneepads same goes with the commissar bundle set

This is the Solution that Fatshark could fix for the Trench Coat

Simple as always for Fatshark Designer Team

In Conclusion
To be honest when the first wave of Veteran Krieg set drop i was disappointed, but i gave Fatshark a second chance with the hopes of overhauling it base from feedbacks and criticism, then when they announce the Krieg set again with no changes made into it, i am shocked and disbelief that we have waited for almost an entire year for Fatshark to change it but to no avail, which is why i’m making this post with hopes to gain enough attention on both @FatsharkStrawHat as well as the darktide community alike. I do not wish anyone to harass or harm towards Darktide Devs. i just wish Fatshark could acknowledge and make a quick change for the Veteran’s Krieg Set.

TL:DR Veteran Krieg set is not good sah, It needs to be update and change entirely sah. #NotMyKrieg Sah.

P.S. I’m planning on making another post for the commissar outfit for the veteran sooner.

[Pirx]

aren’t the models all approved by gw? did anyone skimp on accuracy?

[Molonious]

Alas, we have had many such threads and discussions pointing out exactly these issues, and others (such as the webbing modelling being really bad on the Veteran’s back and being the wrong type of webbing instead of being Y-straps).

Fatshark at this point is 100% aware their Krieg skin sucks, and unfortunately do not care.

The work on these skins is oursourced Chinesium (Adia studio) using someone’s comic-con cosplay made from random army surplus bits for reference instead of the actual Forgeworld art and models, and Fatshark then have the gall to charge and extra premium for it.

Krieg Cosmetics - still a ripoff

[image] Legs are apparently still identical to the OG, hence the ‘discounted’ price. This whole set - by which I mean the weapon skins as well as the backpack or trinket - would’ve been 2400 total at launch. Now it’s 6300. Also, yeah, we finally have official-ish confirmation that the heads are getting peeled off and a generic one slapped on, because someone was too lazy to change the name of their hat cosmetic.

Krieg Cosmetic Set MTX Issues - Zealot/Ogryn headgear swap? Vet Still Awful

So, we’re now seeing the Death Korps of Krieg cosmetic set recycle into the FOMO mtx store. However, there are some issues with this that painfully undercut the value of these “premium” sets, and the fact that Fatshark is charging extra for these is quite frankly…somewhat absurd. First, the Zealot seems to have gotten a proper helmet this time around. The set previously just had a stupid zealot flap gasmask with a Death Korps Grenadier skull on it, that looked truly stupid, now it’s got a prop…

Vet Krieg Set looks botched

Anyone else feel the Vet Krieg outfit is awful? Massive re breather on the chest, No physics. Trench coat looks like a child wearing a parents coat Clipping between collar & mask. No backpack Even the shoulder pads seems off for me. Seems like this ‘extra effort’ is just an excuse to ramp up prices for less. Quality of the set is low, and you don’t get a weapon skin /charm with bundle. Massive disappointment and wasted opportunity.

Krieg Cosmetics - Veteran chest rebreather is 3x as big as it should be, clips into arms/weapons, Vet coat is really baggy next to other classes

Heya, Love the new Krieg stuff, but the Veteran cosmetic some issue, at least on the female model, with a couple things. First, the rebreather unit on the chest (which isn’t connected to the mask with a hose as it is on the original Forgeworld models, but I can live with that, probably awkward to deal with modeling and animation) is WAY too big, probably twice or thrice the size relative to the actual resin Forgeworld DKOK infantry. [image] Actual DKoK Models for reference [Homepage_Deat…

Please fix the krieg

[1696843469205392] Why not make it like the original material? I’m a console player, I don’t have much that Darktide came out on my platform but it saddens me to see how the designers have so little appreciation for this franchise, it’s too noticeable that they are skins without much work or without references when comparing the image I realize that not only They failed in the respirator and the hose, practically the entire skin is bad

Death Korps of Krieg Veteran Skin issues

Issue Type (Required): Cosmetics Issue Description (Required): Clipping Issue number one: The gasmask clips through the collar of the coat which looks ugly and cheap Clipping issue number two: The trouser pockets clip through the leg part of the coat Third issue: the backpart of the lower coat has deaktivated physics since last patch Steps to Reproduce (Required): Equip a male Veteran with all three parts of the Krieg Vet outfit [PC] Do You Use Mods? (Optional): No, I don’t use mods Reprod…

The Kreig premium skin for the veteran looks off and should an update

The whole thing looks like someone trying to cosplay krieg. The helmet needs more of the cone shape that krieg have Link from the reddit for refrence: Reddit - Dive into anything I have been thinking that something is off with the eyes of the mask, that it dosent have the mean/menacing look to it BUT i now realise that the helmet that the helmet just need to be lowerd a tiny bit to get that look going. Also teh collar on the coat around the throat is much better here in the link aswell Li…

Death Korps of Krieg outfits missing gasmask tubes

Issue Description: The gas masks are not connected to the filter unit. Except the Psyker version, which is somewhat well made to look like, also having a tube that actually connects to the filter unit… Veteran version clearly has blackened circle on the end of their gasmask, signifying that there was a tube. Same could be said with Ogryn and Zealot, who’se gasmasks also have details that there should be a tube… Steps to Reproduce: Always Mission Name (If Applicable): Platform: [Steam] Pl…

Veteran Krieg Coat change

It seems people were complaining about the rebreather pack on the Krieg Veteran’s chest so Fatshark “fixed” it in the laziest way possible by flattening it to the point that it looks like a folder. It looks silly and now I wish it just wasn’t there.

Change the zealot krieg skin

What were you guys thinking with this outfit? I don’t know anyone who actually likes these terrible metallic skulls being on every helmet. Just give us a gasmask and combat helmet and be done with it like this skin looks awful. I’ve been waiting since launch for there to finally be krieg skins cause all I want is to run about in a cool gasmask hitting people with a chainsword and I can’t do that because it’s just another skull mask that covers basically all of what makes krieg uniform cool. Ever…

Warning

Fellow Players, I want to warn you about the aquila cosmetic store. In November '23 I bought the Death Korps of Krieg skin for the Veteran for 2900 Aquilae - that is in turn can be bought for 13,49 € - which equals 1/3rd of the games price in total. The higher then average price (most sets by then used to cost 2400 Aquilae - which was already a huge price increase over what you’d pay at release for MTX) was justified by Fatshark with this being premium cosmetics (in contrast to the usual cosme…

@Pirx

aren’t the models all approved by gw? did anyone skimp on accuracy?

That’s the weird part. Some stuff in this game gets modeled with exacting detail, sometimes right down to proportions that are oversized specifically for use as plastic play pieces (hence why the Autoguns all have muzzle brakes that would weigh several pounds and be more appropriate for literal Autocannons), but on others there’s they get radically changed with just a whiff or taste of the original source.

[MrSunshine]

i was on hopium with the hopes Fatshark would change the set, unfortunately they didn’t

[Ragnarok101]

Starting to wonder if Adia charges by the model. Certainly acts like it with how often bits and pieces are recycled across sets.

[Pirx]

that would explain having a universal model for male and female characters with just the heads being different.

(and apparently debugging being easier, considering weird bugs like floating candle lights, lights under your boots, crashes with certain skins… haven’t heard of this in other games)

[Enclave]

Having a tube running from the mask to the respirator on the chest simply just isn’t possible in darktide’s cosmetic system

Each cosmetic can only be designed to take up region the slot it’s designed for. For there to be a tube the head and body would have to be 1 model rather than a separate head and body models which will never happen in darktide slot based cosmetic systems.

[TrueZealot]

Cool thing about miniatures I’ve learned is that there is never reall any rules to it. Color it and modify it however you want and it’s still the same thing it’s trying to represent except with a lil personal flair.

[Molonious]

@Enclave

Having a tube running from the mask to the respirator on the chest simply just isn’t possible in darktide’s cosmetic system

I could see that as a technical issue (though I imagine there’s some sort of workaround possible) but they do have Death Korps models with the rebreathers mounted on the back, such as the Grenadiers and Engineers. They could have made that work like they did with the Steel Legion.

Despite including portions of the Grenadier uniform in some cosmetics (like the Skull mask), they never did the back mounted respirator units. They just made the Veteran’s chest unit extra huge for whatever reason.

[MrSunshine]

cough cough commissar bundle set.

[MrSunshine]

Fatshark being Fatshark i guess Shrugs

[azym]

ye i hate candles on krieg helmet its ugly sorry fatshark its true