nothing should be balanced around havoc or with havoc in mind.
Havoc is supposed to be the ‘oh you think your meta build will save you? That’s cute’ game mode.
well gotta disagree to an extent.
it shouldnt be the goal to make weapons “havoc viable” at all, yes.
but if something is trivializing havoc mode (comparatively) one way or another, it shouldn’t be ignored either
Not if FS is releasing it.
I’m sorry sir, I think you missed this:
“All of our existing playerbase, when we released Darktide, they knew, ‘it’s going to get better, so don’t worry.’ A lot of the new players were saying that it was missing something, but all the old-school Vermintide players were like, ‘Don’t worry about it, they will fix this, they will add systems and it will get better. Just wait’.”
Magnuson has portrayed you as the soyjack, your opinion is invalid.
@Ragnarok101 more fodder for the havoc section:
Looks like I accidentally opened WoW instead of Darktide
With highlights such as:
- Not knowing how havoc rank works
- Tried and True “gameplay is great, systems suck” refrains

- PvP toxicity FS managed to bring to a PvE game
Yeah, going through the rank grind in the high 20s, low 30s after not touching havoc for me to derank all the way down to 20, this has been my experience too. The new ranking system is like the worst that they could have changed the old system to. They should have kept the highest havoc rank reached. Who cares if someone skips ranks? Probably the MBA retention consultant.
you mind showing me what post this originates from? Link just goes to the image.
As for me, I got to level 27 havoc, and immediately stopped playing beyond showing friends the lower levels of said game mode or sometimes hopping onto a low-level one. my intent is to get those neat cosmetics and nothing more.
oops, looks like I fudged a paste:
Looks like I accidentally opened WoW instead of Darktide
Good stuff in the top thread here too:
Adding the ‘break a class before leaving for vacation’ thing they did to Arbites to The Book.
Seriously wondering wtf is wrong with this company’s internal structure. Sure, some of it can be blamed on the engine, look at what Arrowhead is having to wrangle, but Arrowhead at least is consistent in putting out fixes or trying to handle things. They don’t just say ‘alright we’re going on vacay, see you in a month, good luck with the broken paid dlc’.
Also another Havoc complaint.
Glad I didn’t buy this dlc
What an absolute joke. Hell at this point they could release kasrkin armour and I wouldn’t buy it.
No apparent dev environment, no rollback plan in case of production bugs, glacial release cycle… whatcha doin FS???
Ghost hits are also back in a big way.
the whole thing is a mess of desync and errors. Audio queues not playing, players being insta-killed by nothing, dog-missiles zooming around at head height killing things… this is just not in a fit state to sell. the game is not working
Yeah, the insta-dying is really fun.
Just another Havoc rant
The derank is so f u c k i n g stupid.
Just did my weekly attempt at playing the mode (cuz I’m a glutton for punishment).
Actually caught a good team at 31 on the first try.
No one did anything egregiously wrong.
We caught a bad roll of 2 full health burgles in a hallway and even had 2 survive that and get other two back. But it severely weakened us for the next big encounter and everyone went down.
Silence.
Immediate disband by all players.
This is a perfect rando scenario: competent team out the gate that just has to stick together and find The Run that gels and isn’t RNG fudged. But everyone still chasing cosmetics (or glory i guess) is so afraid to try again instead of chasing a chance at a god-player carry, they immediately dip.
So stupid I lack the language to communicate it.
Also the second ‘event’ since Skulls without aquilas.
…yup, they’re really just blind deaf-mutes.
This is a well documented regular behavior. They have been constantly going to vacation for a month after any big release.