Dec 21, 2022 is the date of the last official hot fix/ content update from Fat Shark for Dark Tide.
Today is January 21, 2023.
1 month, no bug fixes. Catch y’all on the flip side.
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and the only update before that was stuff that should have been fixed from the pre-release, and adding two weapons that were already in the game b4 it released. reading that update says
“acknowledge your request for more communication”
but ive seen less communication lol
as well as the error preventing me from playing was mentioned over a month ago, but i guess thats not important
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Next week (at best) was confirmed game is getting only hotfixes
So we will be hitting 2 months soon and game is still incomplete
Should have just marked it as early access and stay there for another year
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They´ve been on christmas vacation and guess what? Even then poeple flamed the hell out of it like they don´t deserve it etc…
It´s obvious that they stay silent since every time something got written down, ppl turned it into a nightmare of shitstorm and even blamed the CM´s.
Sounds really healthy when all humanity is thrown away and the world goes under caused by a videogame…
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I was gonna make a thread for this but here is as good a place as any. The lack of blessing crafting, and even more than that that it doesn’t seem to be coming anytime soon is truly maddening.
TBC I don’t expect anything great from it. I expect to be able to replace only one blessing and that it will likely be a slow and resource heavy process, extracting blessings, combining them to get to the level you want, then finally applying them, likely locking the ability to replace the blessing again later if you change your mind.
Even in that state it would bring such a huge amount of extra control in getting weapons that at least resemble a form you would like. My motivation to play would go up hugely just from having this in the game in almost any form. They may well be trying to course correct at this point and are working on the changing the crafting system for a second time. TBH I don’t think that’s worth the wait, getting the rest of crafting out the door ASAP needs to be a priority. Blessings are make or break in a lot of cases, and a lot of wasted plasteel currently goes into consecrating weapons and just praying you get a good blessing out of it.
I just don’t understand how they haven’t managed to push the rest of crafting out the door by now, or how it could STILL not be coming by the next update.
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vacation doesn’t take a month, they were only off for two-ish weeks, and no (real) communication since the 21st
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I still can’t use the heavy eviscerator chainsword 2 months on because it clips through the camera into your face in my monitor’s resolution (5120x1440). I hope that’s at least in the hotfix because it was one of my favourite weapons in the beta when I was playing on someone else’s PC with their 3840x2160 monitor.
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Doesn´t change the fact, that poeple turn everything said into a shitstorm.
Be real… if they would show up like “We add the last two crafting-tabs tomorrow.”, poeple would be like:
- Still crashes FatFART.
- Oh yeah finally something promised for end of december, you guys suck!
- Wow, crafting but still RNG and walking past a cosmetic shop…
-etc…
You just have to scroll through this forum and have to see threads like “I hope FS goes under at this point…”.
It´s obvious that they want to change the direction and get their stuff done, even the survey… which hey, got flamed aswell,… shows that.
But hey, let´s keep flaming because they haven´t brought a big patch or a sick roadmap within 2 weeks. Let´s put more pressure on them, so a new patch while arrived unfinished, so poeple can continue to flame…
As i´ve written down, sounds really healthy to me that so many poeple act like the world goes under caused by a videogame.
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@Darth_Angeal i think you fail to understand this shouldnt be an issue, since its happend in the past, it should not happen again
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I really don´t know what you from the written stuff you mean with it, but no matter the direction “should” will always be a thing.
Poeple will complain unless there is a big major patch fixing the most things for them, and unless those are crashes, it´s subjective to say what needs to be fixed.
And FS will do mistakes or go on vacation etc, especially if they´re put under pressure and get bashed from all sides. Something Hello Games learned very fast and hey, they went silent and fixed their stuff.
All the hate especially across the official forum is insane and does nothing else but distract. And this here is just todays topic, tomorrow someone else found something different to flame about.
And it happens again and again across gaming that big overhyped majorgames are suddenly not that next 10 000h game without any issues for a low price. It´s always the players acting like they got robbed or whatever.
It´s just a videogame and there are even dozens of them. Such a shitstorm and day per day madness won´t help, it´ll only decrease the players lifetime.
They do know about the issues, poeple could just go play something else until the next patch or ofc vote with their wallet.
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You fail to miss that this should never have been an issue. Choosing to release the game right when they were going on holiday with a clearly unfished game is unacceptable. I’m not saying that people don’t deserve time off, they absolutely do, but to allow a PRODUCT that you are SELLING to be barely playable and release it officially is just insane. Do we give these companies such leeway because “It’s just a game”? I work in SaaS and we would be torn apart for something like this and our customers would absolutely not take holiday as an excuse. I’m so sick of people white knighting for them, this is a disastrously bad release and they know it.
Don’t send threats or be overly rude, but to voice disappointment on a product I purchased under the expectation that Fatshark set themselves of a finished product should be expected. They made their bed and their actions have consequences (community outrage).
At this moment I can’t play one mission without crashing
(my rig should def be able to handle a game of this caliber) and the game has been released for almost two months…how is this a finished product that they could be proud of or would not expect extreme backlash? I can’t play the game enjoyably at this time, don’t shame people as flaming like they aren’t providing valid points. Everything you put as something that people would still “be like” are VALID complaints.
Quit gaslighting and appealing to the extreme “As i´ve written down, sounds really healthy to me that so many poeple act like the world goes under caused by a videogame.”
I PAID FOR A PRODUCT AND IT IS NOT WHAT WAS PROMISED.
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I could tell you dozens of possibilities about the “WHY is the game in its current state”.
Poeple fail to see that there are contracts behind it and yes, quite often there is some sort of “in good faith” if we talk about release-dates and other stuff.
Just pick Anthem for example… 7 years of development and it was even more or a mess. But poeple only see the 7 years, but not that the game got changed 2-3 times completely to offer a way better core-gameplay and that they had to rewrite the engine. In the end it has been like “We need to release, we´ve only shred money until now!”, and poeple played the victims and sheet on the devs for being greedy etc…
Of course everyone is allowed say something if they got a product not working or whatever. But in some cases it´s also just having wrong expectations or being overhyped. And it´s mostly the time when poeple have expectations and they´re not fulfilled, then the world suddenly goes nuts.
I´m not saying FS didn´t do mistakes or whatever. And yes some poeple indeed have valid points. But there are also a lot just venting and searching for more stuff to make things even worse as they´re. All they do is throwing more fire into the oil with dozens of assumptions.
Both sides are not free of mistakes and while a lot think they´re not treated fairly, they also don´t treat FS fairly.
It just doesn´t help. If poeple really want to get a better game then yes, it´s about real feedback and giving them time to fix their stuff. Shitstorm and bs posts don´t help, you just waste your own time and nerves.
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You’ve been here white knighting for FatShark since the start.
Maybe, just maybe, look at what FatShark has done so far:
- They promised better communication. What we got instead is LESS communication. The recent “next week” memes are not only hilarious but incredibly well deserved. And this is for a COMMUNITY UPDATE, not a freaking patch. They can’t even put out a damn list of specific items that they are looking at. I’m not blaming the CMs but this approach is exactly how you lose customers.
- They launched a broken game with a functional cash shop. This is unacceptable, full stop.
- After all this mess, I’ve yet to hear from FatShark management with a simple: “We’re sorry we failed to meet your basic expectations”
The reality is that this game launched with about 1/3 of the content that their previous game got at launch 4 years ago. People have a right to be mad, they’ve been strung along since the paid beta of this game. So yes, it’s totally ok that people are venting on here because they’ve been scammed by FatShark management.
Why don’t you take your own advice and take a deep breath and go enjoy this game if it’s so great?
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Fair enough. It’s human nature to escalate in situations like this. They feel like their voices are not being heard while having been wronged. Look at rioting as an example, it’s due to feeling like you have no other recourse then through the catharsis of lashing out.
It’s no different here. Customers feel that they were lied to and wronged and have not received the level of communication OR Fatshark accepting and acknowledging their mistakes.
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At this point they should call them cold or dead in the ground fixes. Nothing hot about this tempo lol
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Darth_Angeal doesn’t communicate in good faith. He pretends that it’s a vocal minority that are trying to hurt this game or something.
When you look at the facts, FatShark shipped an incomplete product and went silent. This is what grifters and scammers do. The Steam reviews are more than just a vocal minority, this is democracy in action.
I agree with you Bader, people have a right to voice their opinion and call out the scammers that took their money without scruples.
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A “live service” game should never have been released just before giving all the staff a (well deserved) 2 week break!
Take the 2 week break, THEN release the game when everyone is back and able to actually respond to the customers
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Also remember that right after ‘promising more communication’ and promptly disappearing an interview surfaced where the developers took a victory lap on the game while downplaying any issues. Crashing? Well that was something that could not possibly be found in play testing and only affects less than 1% of users, apparently. Server stability they straight up said they excelled at.
Basically nothing that actually lines up with the reality of the player experience, so its right to be worried.
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I’m sorry but, “Quit flaming the corporation that you gave your money to on their public forums” is a terrible take. If a company creates a product, people purchase that product, and then the product turns out to be not what was promised, the customers have every right to complain about the state of that product. While some people take their complaints too far to the point of threats, expressing your complaints in the place the company has provided to express their complaints is exactly the point.
To the actual point of the thread, a month of silence directly after the product release, especially with the vacation time is going to create resentment with the game in the state it is. They surely knew this would be the case, and I have a feeling the CMs weren’t happy about the mess they were being left with. Its probably why they aren’t interacting much, they have nothing new they can tell us, and there are no additional explanations they can provide for the downtime that will make people happy. As it is, the game is going to continue to go further into the negative reviews, sales will continue to drop, and the player base will continue to leave for other games. FS is well aware of this problem, and much like with VT2, they will continue to slowly fix the game and hopefully bring the community back in probably 6ish months when its finally in an actually complete state. The players that remain during this period will continue to provide feedback on the incremental changes. My best advice for people, just move on to a different game for now, cause its going to be awhile before this one is fixed.
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They said that they´re debating and try to prioritize things. Or do you really expect them to continue with the road of the game to get more flame?
They also did a survey, so of course they´re going to look into the answers, try to find new solutions etc… It´s also not just “copy&paste V2 systems”. Just look back and how it got flamed there aswell.
A cashshop is easily scripted, not to mention it was also buggy and caused crashes. Srsly dunno how this is unacceptable since i highly doubt they expected so many crashes.
Everyone has different expectations and a lot are exeggerated. So far that poeple claimed that V2 is suddenly a masterpiece and forgot about all its issues in the past and the ones it still have.
And if you ask me, the basic expectation is gameplay and it´s there, fully working.
That´s just not true.
V2 had only more classes at release and more options in crafting, but a lot of stuff came later.
DT on the other hand has
- a character-creation,
- purchasable cosmetics from begin, no matter if for coins or aquilas
- more weapons, traits, blessings etc…
- weeklies and its vendor
- finally servers
- advanced gameplay with more range-options
- map modifiers not locked to deeds
No matter how much you like it or not, but they added new and changed some old stuff. Being like “I miss 2/3 of the classes = having only 1/3 of the content V2 had at release” is nonsense tbh. A lot classes in V2 play the same, only the ultimates or being tanky / a glasscannon makes a slightly difference.
DT´s classes are more like the DLC classes in V2, which offer some kind of different abilities and gameplay than just “Press F for knockback, press F to hide, press F for an aimbot”.
No need to take a deep breath, i´m not crying all day long and i want this game to succeed instead of acting like whatever you believe ppl do here.
Against all your and others expectations, i´m fully aware about the issues the game has. This has nothing to do with whiteknighting, it´s just that the permanent flame doesn´t help in any way.
You don´t do yourself nor the game a favour doing so. If anything then yes… FS will start to ignore this forum completely or even any relevant and valid feedback written down to a topic, because the other 95% is just stupid bashing against them and their CM´s.
Also some crashes and performance issues have been solved within the community, meanwhile some poeple still prefer to ignore troubleshooting and boil it down to FS´s ignorance and incompetence instead of trying what´s adviced.
Not to mention that FS already listened right at release with their weekly-patches and what happened? More flame, more claims “they´re ignorant”, when they actually listened and addressed issues.
Dunno where you got scammed with 40 bucks, when the core-gameplay is fully working and the servers are running all day long.
Even if you can´t enter the game caused by errors, you could easily refund even after X hours. And this has nothing to do with being scammed aswell, it´s just a major-issue that needs to be fixed. The game is there.
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