I think it becomes blatantly apparent that the game favours giving you what you already have.
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Itās hard to believe thatās not the case when everyone I talk to is like āomg another <item I havenāt gotten yet but they have 5 of it while trying to get the item theyāve never seen but I have 4 of>ā
Tell me about it, after my 16th necklace and 8th bolt staff I just donāt even bother to open them much anymore. Also havenāt been able to get any bow except the swift and I have 5 of them now. Help pls.
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I have 5 bows but not a single swift bow, please help.
Also 5 bows but only 1 melee.
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Will gladly trade before I go insane.
@Fatshark_Hedge, can you please answer, is this really too hard to put another window in crafting menu where we can craft Reds which we want per 5/10 red dust. Or your team really think that this will broke your amazing loot system?
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I second this and also, it would be REALLY nice if someone could actually look into it and give us a statement why the RNG seems so heavily inclined giving you duplicates.
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Itās a nature of RNG.
I am not buying that anymore. I got so many dupe drops back to back, I mean the same red item with the same skin that this simply cannot be pure RNG anymore. And getting 8 bolt staffs like one guy here, consider how unlikely that would be. How often have you rerolled a weapon trait and it came the same 5, 6, 7 or even 10 times in a row? Heck, even on weapons, you reroll abilities on your reds and get the same combination 3 to 4 times in a row, or the same sequence again and again. Just consider for one second how incredibly unlikely that is. Then consider those backend-errors that occured when rerolling. There is something fishy going on with the loot-server communication that allows for stuff like that to happen. The same item dropping back to back or the same trait rerolling again and again could have something to do with that. But considering how many people get the same drop over and over again on weapons, getting the same item dropping back to back etc., I am not sold anymore on āthe nature of RNGā.
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Yeah that is almost a straight mirror of mineā¦
Except mine is Trinkets and Necksā¦ instead of Rings. Those TWO are the only thing I seem to be able to get.
BUT I did get a Red Brace of Pistols a day a go so I thought My luck changedā¦ but then sure enough today got another Red Necklace on Sienna.
Mic drop
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Made a joke with my friend earlier today.
āWatch me get a 4th red hagbaneā¦ā
Opens a box
āā¦Yepā¦ā
Just for the record, here is my list of dupes that dropped back to back:
3 drakefire pistols, 2 rapiers and 2 crossbows (both dropping in the same box each), 2 dual swords, 2 two-handed swords for Kruber, 2 hammer and shield for bardin, 2 handguns for bardin, 2 handguns for Kruber, 2 1h mace for Kruber.
It is also worth noting that the back-to-back drops always occured while I had those very same weapons equipped. This was especially apparent with rapier and crossbow, both of which I was running on WHC. I get the drop in one box, equip them, next box the same.
I have 5 red handguns now.
@Fatshark_Hedge I think this post deserve a āproperā answer to the community regarding red duplicates.
On another subject, I used to be a Fatshark fanboy but the release of VT2 has been a complete disaster.
Roadmap disapeared and all patches are just bugfixes aside from Okri Challenges or releasing mods without validating any rendering it useless for most of people.
I followed the streams on twitch in hope of some good news but mostly those were just āplay with fatsharkā without any hope for a close future.
I do hope FS apologies somehow by rewarding players with proper free content updates.
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Considering their recent stance on this matter, I wouldnāt count on it, sadly. But hereās hoping.
Thatās the problem with people who didnāt study probability theory. Getting 8 Bolt staffs has the same probability as getting 8 Fireball staffs or getting 4 Bolt and 4 Fireball staffs or even getting 1 of every staff and 3 Beam staffs as addition; or ANY other combination. And the thing is there is MUCH more combinations where people get LOTS of duplicates compared to combinations where they get few. Again - MUCH MORE. And you can also get unlucky and get EVEN MORE duplicates. And that all fits into probability category.
Also here I calculated how many duplicates ON AVERAGE you gonna get before rolling each weapon for a class. But as usual the numbers are average and you can easily get 10 times more unlucky than that. Also ā of total weapons can be changed to see average number of duplicates for particular class.
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Now Iām up to 15 trinkets. Opened a box yesterday with 2 reds, both identical trinkets. Takes the wind right out of your sails.
It would be CRAZY
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Iām not opening chests anymore until this is fixed lol. I donāt need anymore necklaces, charms or trinkets. The ONLY red melee weapons I have ever gotten are the two handed sword for elf, and dual swords. Meanwhile, Iām considering changing my last name to Goldberg and opening a jewelry store.
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