I see some requests here and there form people wich obviously try to turn this game into Vermintide3. They make requests like removing the ranged enemys or want to be able to roll god weapons, like the reds in V2. There are other requests like that from time to time. I really hope you dont fall for that Fatshark, because you made a great game here. You have evolved, you always did since i know you. Your games have always been improved and this time you did it aswell. The gameplay is so much better then it was in V2, the loot is so much better then it was in V2. The gameplay now is so addictive, thats how a game should be. The combat and combat feedback is really 10 times better then in V2. But now you also have this kinda Diablo like loot, wich makes gear hunt far more enjoyable. Because you wont get your perfect rolled item in the first week and stick to it for the next 3k hours. Please dont let yourselfs be distracted by Vermintide2 players, wich simply cant let go and dont want to evolve, that would be a very big mistake. Darktide is an improvement in every single aspect, compared to V2. It is just not finished yet, i have understood that long time ago, others will undersand it at some point hopefully. You made the right decisions when it comes to core gameplay, dont make 2 steps backwards now please. Keep up the good work and stay human :wink:

Why would V2 be the base for comparison, not other looters. At least in VT you could craft every base item. If you look a the forums you will see how many Psykers complain they cannot even get the staff they want to use. I think that discussion derailed a bit away from a “1 perk re-roll”. But I cannot see how expecting to get at least an item every completed mission can hurt the game ?

You can upgrade an item, reroll a perk and later a blessing as far as i know. How much more control do you want over a single item?

@EvilDarktide Ok you are one who likes this RNG system and want it to stay as it is. Your opinion, and you have all rights to speak up for it. But maybe reading some of the “player engagement mobile games” articles would help to understand why such RNG systems is in this game (and sadly many other games). This systems are never done in the players favor, this is all about to max earnings. Seems like most bigger publisher moving there games towards this mobile systems and it begins to slowly normal on pc games also. A lot people just say “this is normal in the modern gaming landscape” and get used to this. I say “no it is not”. It only can become normal because people accept this and buy/play this kind of games.

The problem is getting said base item. I understand you got all you wanted in your 330 hrs of play. Some ppl do not have that much time to play and would probably expect to at least see every weapon upon reaching lvl 30. It does not happen currently, you are at rng store mercy.

Hmmm dunno how bad for you it was with gear in V2 but if you played a decent time like at least 5 -10 runs a day & won all of those you get 10 emperor chest … like dunno how for you but in week you get at least 50…+ all comedation chests & other… & from 50 chest you cold easy get like at least 10 reds at minimum. If those reds wasn’t at your liking smelt them & forget yourself 2 red weapons of your liking… most people there that complained about that were “zero’s” that couldn’t even grab sword from the correct side… I dont say the DT system is good. I will say it’s so bad that whenever I check shop for better weapon that I like I usually dont even see those or they’re so bad that they should get scraped by shopkeeper himself. Btw why we only getting money from discarding… why not plastel or diamentium of course depending on the value of staff scraped. New reroll system uses platinum as well… to force people to play that rankings dont go down? Btw You said “custom tuning” we dont have custom tuning for now… it’s grinding players to play more… if they want to reroll one thing that isn’t even a blessing. The developers are dumbasses as their only angering their player base more & more… even updates make people mad as usually the stuff that they add is unsatisfying [like almost no content , they throw some scraps at you & think that all will be happy] . Lfd2 ? ehh it was decent but also meh… even B4B was better because more things that you could customise about character & weapons. They should stay more in V2 tone for gear & mix it a bit with a little of customization & really more talents on all classes there is almost non existential customization & for a game that should be better from V2 it is a step back as for now.

[image] Armoury Shop Chances: A Sad Story of RNG General Discussion Dataset: 30 resets Range 360-369 Specific weapon, no mandatory perks or perk rating: 0,72% Specific weapon, specific perk, no mandatory rating: 0,028% Specific weapon, specific perk, perk rating 25: 0,0031% Range 370-379 Specific weapon, no mandatory perks or perk rating: 0,18% Specific weapon, specific perk, no mandatory rating: 0,007% Specific weapon, specific perk, perk rating 25: 0,00078% Range 380: 32 resets and it finally showed up! Specific Weapon/no mandatory Perk and Rating: 0.… [image] Darktides horrendous loot system by the numbers or Why we should demand some promises Gameplay Feedback Hey. We haven’t any plans, short or long term, to monetize power. Future careers are still on the cards but they wont be inherently more powerful by design, barring initial balance issues when they go from internal testing to the wider community. We managed it mostly ok with Verm 2 where we were close to striking a balance across the 4 released so far (SoTT wasnt perfect sure, but equally Engineer was below the line, but neither intentionally or to grab cash). The designers are aware that findi… [image] FS, do you expect us to play lots of characters? General Discussion This is a serious question. The RNG store. The weekly grind. The leveling grind. The cosmetics store. Separated character inventories. These things, and more, seem to be tuned for a person who plays just one character. I fully expect the crafting system to be tuned similarly. Keeping up with these things on 4 characters is nearly a full time job, as I’m sure many will attest to. And you plan to add tens (20+?) of classes. There is a point at which it will become physically impossible for a p…

How about getting an item in the first place?

I just dont understand why people hate so much on this system. Im so happy that i dont have to watch a damn dice roll after every mission and that i dont have to click countless lootboxes only to find out there is nothing in ther for me. The shop on the morning star, is far more honest and transparent and yeah, it has not always your dream item (what a shame). No its good that you dont get max geared in the first week and i really hope they keep it that way. I already have nightmares, seeing countless vets running around with perfect rolled bolters and power swords :-/

Hey I feel you, as I said I do not mind the crafting as FS envisioned it. I just think to get the best of it, we need more drops to actually have some fun and experiment with weapons.

What does Fatshark earn from the gear shop please? Will you now come up with some kind of conspiracy theory of what they plan to do with this system in the future? I tell you, should they really pull something like that, im the first one who speaks out aginst it. I have also spoken against the predatory in the premium shop and people called me nuts for it. They said there was no predatory (ofc) :-/

Please dont turn this game into V3!

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Please dont turn this game into V3!

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