Grimoire Clowns

FS, we know you hate to do a lot of thinking and changing things in and about DT, but gets to me is why you want to punish a complete team when a selfish self-centred player wants to pick up a Grimoire without considering the rest of the team. Fine if they want to pick it up, then let those players be the ones to be corrupted and not the entire team.

Most of you will possibly hate me for saying this, but it is my own view and I will never sugar coat an issue the game has (amongst the 100’s of other issues) needs to be fixed to corruption of the clown players only who pick them up, cus I will leave game every time some random clown wants to subject me to corruption because of their selfish actions. Yes there is weekly quests to pick them up, if you want to do that than that is on you as a player and the rest of the team should not suffer due to it.

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I agree its not great to subjugate people to further skill checks they may not be ready for.

like if you are good enough enough to carry the game with 3 dead teammates you wont need the extra 5000 dockets, so even for the person carrying them they provide very little risk reward.

I’d love it if books/grims had other uses, like maybe you could use a scripture to weaken DHs without waking them or take out a grim to taunt a boss/DH in order to switch aggro.

as they stand they provide NOTHING to the game.

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It does suck, no argument. But it just exemplifies another break down of game etiquette.

Literally never seen a team have a bad reaction or even leavers when the grim player just says they need them or asks. But that’s a small sample size since that rarely happens.

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Because they hope to learn you to read before clicking a button.
Obviously, they failed.

Next time, choose a mission without grimoires.

I click quick play, but I don’t care that someone can take a grimoire. I can even sometimes pick one to see how the team can do with one…

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Ah yes, this tired old argument.

OP wasn’t complaining about QP, which this is usually the go-to gotcha for.

But the mechanic itself of party punishment, which is ass for a personal goal that your team can’t effectively deny to participate in. And the item is useless to boot.

And, if FS allowed better mission selection/customization, it would be a lot easier to use this “solution” rather than potentially be forced to play the map/mods you want but with grims, or play something else/take a break.

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If there was a down vote option, you would have just got it.

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this isnt a great argument, we cant pick maps and modifiers. maybe OP already played other missions maps and the only remaining one had grims, maybe the other available mission is bugged ie Vigil Station Oblivium + C I VI = Error 2014? - #12 by Index
vigil station right now causes crashes regardless of modifiers

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Worst thing is, most times they are picked up by someone who has no ideawhat they are and what they do, and when i ask them in chat to drop it they don’t know what I’m talking about.

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This old chestnut AGAIN huh, I’d refute it for the 13th time but the rebuttal is so obvious that it would be a waste of time, as was this.
And @CH3DD4R_G0B-L1N already did it some.

P.S. Happy Nosh day @Rumpl_Stilskin

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My friend who is super casual thought it generated agro. HA

It’s all morrows fault for burning down their Library so now they are trying to hide them books.
nobody asks in Qp they are playing packman and grabbing everything not nailed down. well let me correct that there was a very polite Arbites the other day that was on mic. he asked and nobody answered, so he didn’t pick it up.

i feel like sometimes it’s the oblivious trying to cook a team that is already questionably doing ok. if you need to be picked up regularly and pick up the book. you just signed a death warrant.

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He’s complaining about people who pick up grims, who may have chosen the grim mission specifically to get the penance done.

You can’t hold that against them. You joined the map they picked when you QP.

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This is the correct behavior, we all understand this to be the default social contract /game etiquette, well most of us do.

P.S. If you’re doing book penances, it’s much, MUCH quicker to farm them at lower, safer diffs. Hel you can bring in 2nd device account to pick up books then leave, and reconnect to have book for the end IIRC.

Far as I can tell from rereading a few times, QP isn’t specifically part of the complaint.

Just the team corruption mechanic, which I believe is very valid.

If stiltskin is someone who would flame a player for asking rather than just leave, then we’d be at odds.

But he says he leaves, so I’m willing to interpret that generously as just a quiet quitting and not some toxic rant then leaving.

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Hard disagree. Someone trying to get the penance done should be free to do so.

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Sure sounds like complaining about the player.

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Yeah and I understand why OP would leave, not wanting the confrontation, but that’s letting the bullies win; let them know why you’re leaving.

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Sure, they’re harsh venting words, but do we really need to re-litigate forum vs in-game behavior again and so soon?

I get this exact same feeling occasionally and I feel pretty sure stiltskin is venting on the same.

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Then it’s even worse. Don’t select grim missions if you don’t want players to pick up grims.

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Well now you’re circling back to the tired old argument that seemingly has no amicable solution.

Lots if penances are close to griefing, true. Like smoke grenades.

But you can’t blame the player for trying to get those done. That’s not bullying.

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