lolololol Continuing to show that YOU ARE FULL OF IT.
I am the OP creator. You couldn’t even be bothered to read the name, and you just ran down here after reading the title and started spewing it alllll over the place.
Go room temp IQ troll. Go away.
okay you said “I don’t need some sexed up super model faces, and I’d probably be alright with the grit, if we had a few more that looked feminine, please.”
now what youdont get is that you might be saying one thing ,and meaning another.
calling you a coomer is hyperbolic but, did you see the characters faces in VT? did oyu expect something different. its okay to make art that isnt pretty. and its annoying that we always have to have everything be attractive. try to enjoy somthing you dont want to see for a change, evolve past a cavman mentality of :unga like pretty thing.
we had 10 thousand years to grow some taste and appreciate things that do not spike dopamine.
But dude, if that is your character you reinforce their point because it is one of the only two or three that actually end up getting used, one of the few passingly feminine ones.
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Says person completely unfamiliar with 40k.
Destroyed by facts and logic.
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WELL thats presumptive isnt it? you are going to tell me eldar are hot? id get my eyes checked m8.
what, big E? the primarcs? maby some space marines? okay yes the idea pictures of humanity are kinda hot, but also thats 20 out of billions. lol
well sure but i want to use the acid burns more, i jsut cant stand the yelow tint thay leave on the scar tisue, its a color issue. sides that jaw can brake bricks.
I mean think of how even by todays standards “passingly feminen” ya okay so this construct of feminimity is going to stay the same for 40thosand years, when its allredy changed over 10thosand years? like it jsut stops developing? or more over it wold not amalgamate in to a universal “human” appearance." most hivers are lucky to not have extra digets or limbs, and you guys want a K pop star. pff.
It mostly hasn’t. We aren’t even off topic here so let me make this pretty clear. Academic study of archeological and literary evidence suggests the same thing generally defined as conventionally attractive today by the average person was also considered attractive 10,000 years ago and beyond. This shouldn’t be the least bit surprising because attractiveness is a social stand in for features associated with health and reproductive fitness and species don’t do massive evolutionary changes in just 10,000 years so the definition of health and fitness as defined by our actual bodies and not by a bunch of social mumbojumbo is still the same as it always has been.
There are far more people than that in the imperium and considering how many dire poor people with garbage lives manage to be perfectly attractive in real life you better believe plenty of men and women managed to go through life in the imperium without looking like they got tossed into a blender with a PS2. I could go into any 40k book and pull out a huge pile of examples. Its a recent social sickness to pretend that normative attractiveness is unobtainable and somehow undesirable. But its not a problem 40k has because 40k lore was written and codified well before the latest brand of cognitohazardous meme broke out from the SCP foundation and spread on youtube.
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As someone who often goes out of their way to use faces I don’t see used often, maybe it’s just me, but whether or not a particular face looks “good” largely depends on how it combines with the hair/clothing/voice options we have, which right now are kind of minimal and don’t work great with a lot of the faces. More hair options and some degree of face/body sliders would go a long way toward making the less used faces more viable, as well as more voices that sound like they’re coming from someone other than a white european.
imo our characters should look pretty rough and FS mostly did a good job. Most of the background options are explicitly some sort of hazardous manual toil we’ve performed since childhood or military service, and then we spent an indeterminate amount of time in prison. People don’t tend to come out of that looking very pretty. I like most of them, but FS did go a little too far into Innsmouth territory with some of them.
Eh, I don’t know if weighing 40k humans against the standards of what appears to be post WWII white America is the best way to go about it. If anything, 40k’s Imperium takes inspiration more from stuff like Victorian England or any other industrial revolution-WWI era imperial power. If we’re gonna start measuring skulls in here, it should be the skulls of factory workers, colonial footsoldiers, and peasants, not Mad Men.
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Excuse me, but the picture does list principles as to the differences between drawing men and women. These two were just the given examples. However, the principles should be about the same for all races regardless. 38-39 thousand years won’t make for much of a change, especially considering the decent women and men depicted in official WH cover art, as depicted above. The game’s style of heads and faces is 100% an outlier from all other WH content that I’ve see thus far.
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We aren’t those people though, and were never meant to be, is my point. The Rejects angle is a fairly unique concept in 40k, we don’t normally see people this low down the totem pole in Imperial society. Again, our characters are manual laborers, crazed street preachers, and low ranking military members who just got out of prison. You ever look at mugshots? A lot of people look really bad after getting shoved through most regular earth prison systems, I bet people would be pretty messed up after going through 40k prison.
You’d be better off comparing against penal legions and crowd shots of hive scum from actual 40k art than a random drawing guide from the 50s, a cartoonist tutorial from deviantart, and cover art meant to advertise the product. The cover art, by definition, exists to entice the viewer so of course there is more incentive to put attractive people on it. This isn’t to say that attractive people don’t exist in the imperium, just that it makes sense that we’d be playing the ugly ones in this game considering the circumstances. I think a lot of people get hung up on “this is how a lot of art depicts X, therefor this is how X ‘should’ look” which doesn’t really pan out when talking about people, who often don’t neatly confirm to artistic ideals.
This is one case where I can actually see and make sense of FS’s Design Intent, and even though I think the execution could be better in some cases (like everything else in this game), I mostly get what they’re going for and I broadly like it.
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We are also have access to chirurgeon and inqusition bonuses. Imperium medicine can do some miracles.
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So? Just because we’re acolytes by lvl 30 doesn’t mean we have access to the same stuff higher ranked members of the warband do. Ordo dockets are basically Grendyl’s company scrip, no way to know what they’re actually worth because 40k lore as a whole is very inconsistent with economics. What we do know is those kinds of treatments are only affordable to the middle and upper classes, which our characters aren’t.
You could just as easily explain how the characters look by saying that we don’t have access to the same kinds of quality rejuvinants higher ranking members like the pretty boy interrogator might have, so the best the barber can do is give us mediocre plastic surgery.
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Guards at hub start calling us “heroes of atoma” at lvl 30. So planet heroes that can’t have access to some proper surgery and medicine feels strange. Yet somehow it is possible to change skin color, eyes color and even swap your face, but strangely only to a face of another prison dweller, lol. Also, it’s a pure speculation and imagination how long any of rejects spend in prison, maybe 10 years or maybe 3 days.
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Random guards who probably don’t see any real action outside of the Mounringstar probably would think of the player characters as heroes if they managed to survive that long and get inducted into the Inquisition. Doesn’t mean they have access to the same stuff higher ranked members of the warband do.
Literally everything we’re talking about is pure speculation and imagination lol, the game doesn’t adequately explain any of this enough for it to be anything but, and the lore is vague enough that you can handwave whatever explanation you want. Also what you’re describing is just game limitations clashing with lore, which this game is lousy with and doesn’t really matter to my original point. Character customization is in the game, so you can edit your appearance. We can’t finely tune our appearances as much as the lore suggests we should because it was too hard to put facial sliders in the game. Our customization options are limited because Darktide was clearly rushed out the door half finished to cash in on holiday sales. We probably wouldn’t be able to alter our appearances instantly for free whenever we want either, going by what the lore says, but we can because it’s an unnecessary thing to make the player spend dockets on.
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At the end of the day, regardless what your arguments are, 40k always was and always will be a fantasy where everything is cannon but not everything is true. 40k was always about the PLAYER roleplaying, we should get the choice to play as the character we want. If not then why put in character creator in the first place?
Does it really hurt you so god damn much to see other players playing as an actual female who doesnt look like a troglodyte?
You like the current faces? good for you, now let others also have some fun too.
Not that this conversation will ever actually make fatshark add new decent looking faces regardless of how many people want it or dont want it…
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The only thing I’m arguing against is the idea that this is some kind of terrible mistake and people reaching for lore justifications for why everybody in the game needs to be hotter. FS’s entire design aesthetic with their Warhammer games is pretty generally grimy and these characters are totally in line with that and appropriate for the situation. imo a lot of the people saying there are only 1-2 good faces are just hesitant to step outside their comfort zone. Many such cases.
lol, no, but it’s funny how bent out of shape some people get when women in media aren’t strictly designed to be conventionally attractive. I hope they add more face/hair/body options too because I’m a huge sucker for character customization and want as much variety in this game as possible.
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And cause they don’t give any freedom of choice for people, probably 80% female characters use this preset.
It’s not about comfort zone, it’s just like that - most people prefer fine looking characters. And threads about ugly faces apears over and over. So it looks like a miss with that design of “no nice faces allowed”
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