Space Marine 2 is online. Judging from the current situation. Space Marine 2 gives a detailed updated roadmap, more diverse class options, and more weapons. The enemies are also more diverse.
If the Dark tide continues to update slowly at this rate, it will lose the race. The number of players will also be smaller, so Fat Shark should be working hard now.
The first is to boost player confidence, we need a detailed game update roadmap. Let us know the game update plan and the approximate time of implementation.
The second is to strengthen the in-game activities and stop using those materials to fool the player. We need better rewards to motivate players to play your event.
The third is to respond to the demands of the players in a timely manner (you are doing better than before, but it is still not enough).
Many of my friends have left the Dark Tide, and the future of the game is uncertain. All I can say is, fat shark, youāve got to work hard, and the sooner the better.
APPLES =/= ORANGES
Also:
Both games can be enjoyed at more or less the same time.
Itās not like you got to choose.
Of course I know, but the slow update of Fat Shark will no doubt greatly affect the confidence of Dark Tide players.
Not mine.
Iām old enough not expect an update every 5 minutesā¦
Some people act like heroin addicts.
Also why did you quote yourself?
Itās not heroin addiction
It is a fact that the renewal of the dark tide is too slow
Darktideās first update of the year, the Path of Redemption, is insincere
Itās been almost three months since the last update, Secrets of the Mechanical God.
This new update also unlocks a new map and weapon talent.
We donāt know when the next update will come, maybe another 4 months, how many players will be lost in the meantime?
i quote myself?i quote wrong
Three month is nothing for the likes of me.
Also, may I redirect you to another two topics in THIS forum:
This game was never a Live Service game.
Having FREE updates every couple of months is okay.
āPromisesā from other companies, what great stuff they have plannedā¦
I donāt trust any āpromiseā a company makes.
So any "roadmap"for either SM2 or DT is just paper to me until the moment I see the content downloaded & tested by me(!).
They announced their update for crafting.
Iāll wait and see how that turns out to be.
I have no desire to compare this game and the way itās handled to another,
hardly comparable product like SM2 or HD2.
It getās pretty boring to see all these āX will kill DTā or āFS look at Xā topics pop up AGAIN and AGAIN.
You wanna go play SM2?
Have fun.
Maybe we will play some rounds together at some point, BUT that doesnāt mean that:
a) SM2 will turn out to be a masterpiece/better handled etc.
b) FS needs to ālearnā from a game that hasnāt even been out for a whileā¦
Who knows what those guys will do???
In short:
STOP with all the hype!
Thereās no point in attacking me. Iām not hyping anything.
You donāt speak for anyone, and itās true that many players are leaving the Dark Tide. According to Steam statistics, Dark Tide players are now less than 5Kļ¼in this case do you insist: Oh, the state of the dark tide is fine.
This is Fat Sharkās crisis time, I have played 1000+ hours of Dark Tide, and now I have rarely opened this game, and so have many of my friends around me.
Itās due in 21 days.
I mean behind 9.26
Iām not attacking YOU.
I āattackā topics like this, which are IMO useless and go nowhere fastā¦
I explained WHY I think that above.
I speak for myself and NOT for others, but I know that Iām not alone in this:
Iād rather play with 5000 diehards, than with a million casuals.
This game will stay alive with itās core gamers.
Iām not trying to brag, but since you brought hours up:
Iāve 2000+.
I play with friends & with randoms.
I donāt care one way or the other.
I see no crisis.
This game had way worse times.
If you & your friends lost interest, thatās okay.
But donāt try to act like SM2 release is more important than it is.
Sure lotās of players will move to SM2 for a bit.
Other will not.
Some will return.
Others not.
Thatās just how that is and always was.
Comparing FS to any remotely competent dev is a losing game.
FS has never been able to deliver things in a timely manner or working condition. They take forever to release an update, and sometimes even longer to fix all the previously working things theyāve broken, along with new bugs introduced.
All that is made worse whenever they work on a console version (PS5 currently).
The reasons have been discussed to death since Vermintide 1/2: Incompetent project management, bad code versioning, chaotic internal structures & communication, ignoring community feedback, etc. etc.
At the end of the day they somehow survive either due to whales whaling MTX and/or investments like Tencentās.
If you want a ācompleteā non-cankerous gaming experience from a FS game you generally have to take the release date and add 2-3 years at minimum.
given recent matches i wholeheartedly agree.
right now i even add ānot-toā matches to my uploads in the vain hope that, if not out of the live mission, at least in replays people see the ineffectiveness of certain behavior.
got stuff in the same map back to back, night and day difference all due to sticking or not sticking together at the final encounter.
seems rocket science to some.
More diverse class options ? Can we have that actually fact checked ?
And whatās the weapon count for SM2 ? Even without considering variants Iām not sure if SM2 will have/has more.
to be blunt, the quality of melee combat made by Fatshark is top-tier, and no other game can compete with it. However, the pace of content updates is very slow, and thereās no roadmap either. If you love this game, you have no choice but to become a slave to Fatshark. Iām one of them, too
space marine is releasing with 2-3 hours of pve co op content and a once and done 6 hour campaign. the classes seem to be a weapon pool and a choice of 3 abilities.
Ill pick it up because 40kā¦ and it looks fun, but it also looks very WWZ , there just spamming the one melee combo per weapon and QTE for parry/riposte batman styleā¦ thatās not a very deep combat system compared to DT
be clear i think FS update pace is glacial and a constant source of frustration im not on a side here except ours as players. its good to have both but they both have issues
Well, even PC Gamer confirms that Space Marines 2 is losing to Darktide 
Funnily enough PC gamer article is one of the few negative ones at this point in time.
Fatshark quick do something! Helldivers 2 will be the darktide killer!
oh am I late to the party?
Personally speaking, Space Marine 2 isnāt a threat to Darktide for me. Fact of the matter is that I play the 'Tide games because they are āfirst personā shooters, not 3rd person. 3rd person create a totally different experience and (lesser IMHO) sense of immersion that I am just not interested in. Hell Divers 2 and Space Marine 2 might be the most awesome thing ever, but they arenāt even remotely on my radar to play.
I suspect larger numbers of more casual gamers, especially coming from the console side of things, are way more receptive to 3rd person and thatās great and all - but itās not for me.
OP, you said āweā the only person you speak for is yourself.
Just because SM2 got a roadmap (how the hell did widescreen support not be day 1) doesnāt mean that you should get one from FS .
First time?