Fatshark please, do something

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide General Discussion
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I am not going to sugarcoat it, the game is bleeding out and you are doing nothing to stop the hemorrhage.

Helldivers 2, the sequel of a game that basically nobody knew even existed made by a studio that had no experience with TPS, that had no massive IP to use as a leverage, with servers barely holding together and no working matchmaking is blowing Darktide out of the water because the studio understood the most important part of what makes a video game good : a fun gameplay and a rewarding progression

I am not here to praise HD2 and bury Darktide, I have been here for this game before launch after one of the closed tests, I want this game to succeed but right now the future is looking even bleaker then before the talent tree rework. You need to do something about the grievances that have been raised by the community since before release and you need to do it fast. Having a good gameplay won’t make people stay, there are dozens of other games with good gameplay that also reward the time invested and you already wasted your second wind.

Why are people playing leaving Darktide ? Because there is no reason to stay. There is no actual way to grind for a good weapon, only one of the worst gasha type of progression that would make most korean grindfest games look friendly ! How the hell is Warframe, a free to play game with hundreds of different weapons and more than 1200 different mods all dropped from different sources less grindy and random than a $40 game with less than 70 weapons and blessings and only one way to get everything ?

Why is there absolutely no new free cosmetic to grind ? It’s been more than a year and the only free sets available are the redacted penance set that you have to unlock in private games because some of the penances are far too absurd for quickplay and instead of fixing the not funny penances you just dropped them in a big REDACTED area and the not redacted ones. You gave us one free set of new penance stuff to replace the redacted ones and that’s it. No sets to go with the new abilities that have been released more then 4 months ago, no long grind to unlock an elite set or something special for your class, nothing. The premium store got updated right on time every 2 weeks tho, even more expensive and with cosmetics still as poorly made or straight up recolors.

Where are the new weapons ? This a 40k game, you have a nearly limitless amount of weapons to pick from and all you do is putting some reskins with slightly different abilities and each new release highlights how terrible the crafting system is.

Where is solo play ? You promised it would come soon after launch (your own annoucement Steam :: Warhammer 40,000: Darktide :: Community Update #1: Pre-Order Beta Hotfix 1.0.6) and we are more than one year into the game and there is still no solo mode and the bot that replaces a leaving player is useless. You had a good thing with Vermintide’s bots, why is it so bad in Darktide ?

I am not going to talk about the possibility of getting new maps that are not just another part of the same 3 environments we played on for more than a year, the weapon customisation that is absolutely needed for some weapons or the silent specialists that have been plaguing the game for months and will ruin your runs.

Please Fatshark, tell us something. Anything. This is supposed to be a live service game and yet we have less updates than Baldur’s Gate 3, a mostly solo game that isn’t a live service. You don’t want to give us a roadmap because you won’t be able to respect it ? Fine, but at least give us a glimpse of the future if there is anything left to come or rip the bandaid and tell us that the game is going into maintenance mode. Don’t leave us in the same situation that nearly killed the last remnants of the community right before the talent tree rework announcement. Please.

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From a business perspective it makes sense that they’re currently riding out the highly successful launch of Helldivers 2. Why would they compete with the launch of a game with a high demographic overlap? It checks out.

I’m not saying it doesn’t suck, I’m just saying that’s probably why they don’t. It’s understandable atleast

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No, the reason is because they take a vacation every year at this time of year and don’t release anything for like a month or more after they come back. They did this last year, reportedly they have behaved the same with VT2. Fatshark’s development process us notorious.

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Very wise opinion, however you can go through update histories for this game and the past one (VT2) and see that by this timing they have always started communicating by january. By mid/late february there was almost always a sizable update out. It stands to reason things are extra delayed this year as we havent even had a single communication yet, and the most likely reason is a competing games extremely successful launch.

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New content never!

;___;

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Silence → Them saying something that later on change will not do any good, not with the community that we have

Patch → We’ve had word that the teams are working on things, not much way to make it go faster, unless taking short cuts and making things worse

Solo → Deemed less important so was shelved without ETA

New weapons → They’ve introduced new variants in December, they’re still supposed to finish a couple of them, compared to VT2 we’ve got more weapons in the same time span (If we look at those that are different enough to be counted as different weapons, and not just variant)

Penance → Though we know that new penance are planned, they avoid changing penance cause people already have them, and it wouldn’t be “fair” toward those

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Hot take: Darktide is bad but Helldivers actually sucks, I dont understand the appeal.

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I don’t play Helldiver 2, but I don’t think either game are bad, Helldiver is going to interest more people, like SM2 by being not being a melee game at it’s core though

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It’s really, really easy to not lie. It’s almost as easy to avoid even the appearance of lying. Fatshark could talk at any point - they just don’t want to, because ‘we have no intention of changing any of this’ is just going to make people mad.

Then don’t claim it’s almost ready to release. Like I said: really easy to not lie.

Having a functional development process would make things faster. Instead Fatshark siloes the teams, which means the end product is slow, buggy, and often re-implements stuff because nobody communicates.

Congrats. They have the bare minimum of promised ‘weapons’ (not really, 80% of them are moveset alters of the same thing.)

They already changed the initial set of penances to be slightly less cringe. Any proof on them planning new ones?

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We’ve been seeing various leaks since like october of last year but instead we got FOLDING SHOVELS. Peak 40k. ;^)

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It it lying it plans have changed though ?

See previous point, Solo was ready but then deemed not satisfactory (iirc at the time it was a Bot AI issue) and then pushed back

Leaked penance gear

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As for shovels, though I do admit they should have spread the variant more in the last patch, we did already know since the beta that every weapon will have 3 (Or more in the case of staves) variants, except the shield for some reason

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That’s a modded boltgun.

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Using Bolt Pistol parts that exist in the game, same way there is a Coach Gun too (What people call the 2 barrel shotgun)

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How would it be possible to make such a thing if fatshark hadn’t added the models? The mod just stitches together prexisting assets. It doesn’t create anything.

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Except there is no variants of staves. I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. Staves have 0 variants.

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Variant as in they share model, the Kickback and Rumbler are considered variant in file, even though they don’t share blessings

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Yeah, my bad. I initially perceived it as a boltgun model with some parts moved or removed but now I see I was wrong.

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the leaks are not to be trusted. fatshark has a deep love of leaving stuff in their builds they never finish and add to their games, so datamining is totally useless except for trolling the playerbase. there were weapons in VT1’s code we never got in either VT, they just left them in to make people rage.

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Depends on how are you choosing words, if you will say smth like: “we are planning, discussing, want to” in tie with “but it’s too early, we might be not, we’ll see how it goes, not giving a promise”. Then no, it’s not a lie. Especially if you will come after and explain why, not corpo speech, but real reason, you probably will decrease ammount of harsh words that will fly in your address.

There is some ammount of underdelivered stuff people can tolerate. Fatshark completely don’t feel those limits.

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