I know where you stand on all these mods and how you feel about tryhards making use of them…which of course isn’t to say that you shouldn’t keep beating your drum.
But the fact that the game is server authoritative means that we’re looking at the maximum benefits that mods can grant a person. And even in the most extreme case we’ve seen (wall hacks), I don’t feel that these benefits are a problem or a danger to the game.
And FS doesn’t feel there is a problem. Certainly not one that necessitates adding EAC back in or making modding more difficult or throwing man hours at making another busted-ass sanctioning system.
(If it’s not clear, I’m just reiterating my points again, as the two of us seemed damned to do for eternity.)
At this point, I MUST say that I am totally admirative of your patience.
I will repeat that I would be agree to put an option for people that don’t want to play with modded games. Like that, we would cease to get these topics and these players could play like they want.
I think they would be a little alone… But if it is what they absolutely want, who am I to oppose this?
But, I am totally against that 5% of the community ruin the game for 50% of players.
You know why I was pressing you for an answer in the previous thread? It’s because you seemed uncomfortable with the topic, and you keep repeating how you don’t like it, and I wanted your opinion on it as an average player (it’s good to get different and challenging opinions) .
You’re presenting these options as if they are the only ones they are not.
Splitting the community is not feasible, nobody wants EAC, glacial sanctioning of mods etc.
What’s needed, what WAS needed is better self-policing from the community of modders AND users.
No putting the genie back in the bottle, but it still can improve if only a little, it’s mostly too late for what’s already out there but still.
But let’s at least be honest about it, if only for the sake of honesty.
Is it breaking the game? No
Is it a cheat? Surely
Is it something that will hurt me? How? I won’t even say that someone use that. And the benefit is not even noticeable.
I am more concerned by the total absence of balance between weapons (and also talents), THIS is ruining my fun. And not a mod I could not even notice that someone, in my team, uses.
If it was an auto aim mod, a speed hack, an infinite ammo hack, or an invincibility cheat, here yes it would ruin my fun.
But here, I guess fatshark would step in and stop that by banning players.
Fact is, we don’t have the same feeling. Fatshark has said that these mods are acceptables.
I have said it, my tolerance is great in a pve game.
I think the limit is when you hurt the game of other players. Speed hack (as example) does this. The mod you point, is far away of this.
The fact you can do something that cannot be done by an human can be labelled as cheat.
However, what in reality the mod does?
It just permit you to chain first first shots. Will it gives you an advantage?
Yes, but nothing more than using a macro.
Same with spidey sense. If you have a really good headphones, you have an advantage. Not everybody can afford such material. Spidey sense permits to restablish a balance between the guy that has the best headphones and the one that has the 20€ stereo speaker.
Can we stop with the spidey sense is just a hearing aid nonsense? Seriously my first and most negative experience of this mod was someone using it to kill enemies through walls with plasma gun on Mercantile (a map with abundant monster doors). He was hugging walls to push spawns closer to him and then shooting exactly at their spawn in points through walls. About 80% of that map is set up in a way where the other 3 rejects didn’t kill jack squat. It was a joke to see posters pretend like this isn’t totally exploitable and stupid. Half of the people using it already admitted to toning down its ridiculous default 40m radar stance for all taggables (the mod state when you download it). It is not hearing related at all and can very easily negatively impact the experience for others. Not the same.
Because he didn’t have EXE and he was literally laughing about it in the game chat. I was like ‘lol is there another wallhack mod that needs to be removed’ and he replied yeah its called spidey sense. He was a middle lane vet.
Exe stance is exactly the point starved garbage loadout that would be acceptable to see on, but its avaliable outside it. Glad to see you’re coming around to understanding the issue.
Why do people whine about voice lines every 5 seconds when you can bind tag spot to M1? Our boy gpk made a mod to fix the actual loss of all use of your ears there. But vacuum capsule is the problem.