You can say all you want, but you play worse than you speak English. I haven’t witness that brain dead of gameplay since beta. Please tell me you aren’t sober when you played. You better be higher than a kite
Some people stand up for ideals. If I saw a bigot telling someone they couldn’t eat at their restaurant, I’d be equally embarrassed of the shallow, dogmatic reasoning
Like you just told me you’d rather play with a bad MNK than a good controller layer. How does that even make sense. That is such a shallow thing to say you can’t possible think that stands up to even a little scrutiny
You can’t force me to change my mind. I consider controller players mediocre at best, a liability most of the time.
My experience, and frankly that of many others, proves that to be correct on the highest difficulties.
They need crutches like surge staffs or assails autoaim to barely keep up. If they don’t have these gimmicks they fall off so hard you can literally see it.
Argue all you want. As long as you’re using a controller that’s all you will be able to achieve. There’s a reason they give controllers massive aim assist in fps games. They’re absolute trash otherwise.
Just did a hi int auric shock trooper. Was hard but only went down once again. Maelstrom looked easier then it so I did that. Let me know what the next goal post is
Your word is worthless here. Post scoreboards like I did.
If you ever get most damage done, least damage taken, most specials/disablers or even elites I’ll be impressed.
Otherwise keep screaming into the void.
I literally spent an hour last night recording my gameplay and it’s not good enough lol
Your horrible clown friend inspired me to try something I usually don’t do and I did it lol
It was way harder than damnation but I think that is fair for me to say
And I even dropped in part way through the match. Me and one guy played for a solid 3-4 minutes and clutched it to get the other guys back up.
So I missed this option. You’re saying that you want to opt out of crossplay for console, but also the option for people on the MS platform on PC to also opt out of console yet stay with steam players?
There’s a decent argument to be had there, but MS’s whole selling point is “play anywhere.” Pretty much a deal breaker for them I think. You have any idea how much money MS pays for day 1 access on release day through game pass? Look up the leaked figures, they are staggering.
The thing is, I’m old enough to have seen companies offer the option to opt out of crossplay and the threads that follow complaining about the three people they keep getting matched with after 15 minutes of waiting. Keeping the playerbase up is really the only consideration.
You recorded a trash difficulty no one asked for.
If you don’t start reading what people write properly this is just a waste of time (not that it hasn’t been so far lol)
Ok so if I record a auric hi shock you’ll finally stop being a bigot?
I’ll probably have a hearty laugh and repeat what I said earlier.
It was kinda impressive ngl. I think you made a point that it is possible to play the game well on a controller. But you also kinda proved the point that aiming is not really great. We also established before that ppl generally think its possible on a controller, but usually not the case.
Youre also a pc player and maybe are not exactly the norm regarding controller player. Dont you think. Are you really of the opinion that all controller players display the same capabilities as you do?
From my experience with console players most of them dont even go to options. Ofc its only annecdotal from friends and couch coop stuff. But most of them just dont care. And origin of this topic is of ppl joining (or maybe qp) into maelstorm missions that are absolutely useless. And very often they are also xbox players with low character levels.
Then there are a lot of players that you can put in this area…
And again, the point was AIMING WITH A GUN
If you cannot aim with a gun, you cannot be as efficient as is someone that can aim.
And from the video you have shown, I cannot say that you can aim properly with your controller.
You said you play zealot as main, that exactly what I do. But, as I have always said, I like to test. So yes, this is not my main weapon, but I like to not play always the same.
If I had took my zealot, you would have seen more melee and less aiming… And what I wanted to point is AIMING.
Anyways, you have again misread (or don’t want to understand). This is not a competition, and I met lot of worse players than me (and lot that are better). That’s not the problem. The problem is that with a player with a controller will never aim properly. And that the game is not 90% melee and 10% ranged weapons…
So you keep trying to convince all of us that you play well, and we keep saying you that controllers is an handicap. Sure, there are people that will play well zealot, but once they will have to aim for this sniper that is 60 meters away and that all the team is on floor, then here, the controller will show its flaws.
so yes, again, a controller can play well in melee, but sucks at aiming with a gun.
For an example, I like to play chivalry 2 on the xbox… except the bowman class. For this class, I can play it only on PC, cause you need to… AIM
Don’t worry… I am not stupid.
As crafting won’t see locks removed, we (steam players) won’t see this option. Cause, as you point, there is money behind this.
I guess what remains is the kick system that we should use more.
My last… lost
As you can see ( Bigpfeiffer)… with a revolver I killed more elite / specials. And again it was auric.
Unfortunately, we won’t see same stats… as this is my own version of the scoreboard that I like cause it logs what you killed… The only argument that would have convinced me is that if he had aimed properly. But, he did not, and played melee all along. This cannot convince me that he can aim with a gun when using a controller.
And the personal attacks or the tries to insult me without using prohibited words, won’t change my mind. He did not prove that he can aim properly.
Bragging about being better than bad players?
Let me rephrase that, bragging about being better than maybe MNK bad players?
For all you know they’re all using controllers too, right?
He’s not wrong, there’s even 1 point where there’s a zombie a couple of feet from you and you fired 3 gun bursts that all missed and then you switched to your melee, not sure what that was all about.
It was kinda impressive ngl. I think you made a point that it is possible to play the game well on a controller. But you also kinda proved the point that aiming is not really great.
Thanks man! Yea headhunters are harder for me to aim then lasguns and shotguns for some reason. Its definitely not as good as MNK in DT but I think I make it work just fine. I just wanted to show people what someone who can use a controller correctly looks like. You can extrapolate that gameplay to whatever difficulty you want. I did my same stuff just now in a auric Hi Int shock troop. Was it insane? yes. Did I think we were gonna wipe a couple times? yup! But I joined that game with 2 men down and we did it. It felt great and we all enjoyed ourselves. Then you guys these clowns who just can’t seem to think that is possible.
We also established before that ppl generally think its possible on a controller, but usually not the case.
Yea see that’s what I don’t like. There are millions and millions of people who play with a controller and you are making a blanket statement like you somehow know that they are generally as bad and it is because of the controller. There is no way you know that. Is that fair to assume? I almost think you guys mean to say “generally people are bad”, which I would agree with. Most people do not care about video games. I have 2 friends who have PCs and play games…I would still put them in that category. We are on a video game forum, I would expect most of us to be top tier just from that association. Know what I mean?
Youre also a pc player and maybe are not exactly the norm regarding controller player. Dont you think. Are you really of the opinion that all controller players display the same capabilities as you do?
I have no idea if players have the same capabilities that I do, or that you do, or anyone else. You guys are making that inference, not me. Since you asked, I’ll tell you about me and you can decide where I fit in the spectrum of “good” and how I would relate to other players (both mnk and controller):
-I played FPS on console for a solid 10 years growing up, among other games. I then bought a pc in my early 20s and played nothing but Dota and ARPGs for liek 15 years lol. I was top 5% of dota in my prime! I Started playing FPS again about a year ago. Started with COD/warzone, which sweaty controller players absolutely destroyed me tons of times lol. Like, those guys are nuts.
- I have roughly 300 hours in DT. Your fellow gamers already described my gameplay as nothing special and rightfully critiqued many things I did wrong. Do I think I am generally better than most people at games/sports/ predicting what people will do? yea probably a little bit? I’m certainly better than the other guy who showed his video.
From my experience with console players most of them dont even go to options. Ofc its only annecdotal from friends and couch coop stuff. But most of them just dont care. And origin of this topic is of ppl joining (or maybe qp) into maelstorm missions that are absolutely useless. And very often they are also xbox players with low character levels.
Sure, I am completely with you guys when it comes to people who have no business joining our games when they clearly are just being selfish. That is a reasonable thing to complain about, but ALL walks of life do that. You never had players join your games prior to xbox release who were straight garbage or kept dying? I hate it when level 20s join my games. I just don’t see how turning off crossplay solves that problem better than other solutions, like a ranking system or something like that. Not wanting to play with a whole group of people, regardless if they are capable of doing it is being a bigot. You don’t like them simply for the group they are in. I just can’t reason that situation out any other way. Like this guy above me. He doesn’t care if they are good. How does that make any sense? We should want to play with other players our skill level. That’s all a reasonable person would ask for.
I have a friend who is PC and only MNK and never goes to options or any of that (also drives me crazy, like you! lol ).
I just think you guys (maybe you? sorry if its not) are taking what you don’t like about gamers, in general, and trying to pin it on console players in this instance. PC players are no better than console gamers. There are plenty of games I will slap the stuffing out of PC players with my controller. It’s just a better player beating a worse player, which is how it should be. Unless of course, you are a bigot.
Bragging about being better than bad players?
Let me rephrase that, bragging about being better than maybe MNK bad players?
For all you know they’re all using controllers too, right?
I’m not bragging. Like you implying, that is nothing to brag about. I am just saying that is what the conversation should be based around. Not “hey you got a controller or what?”
He’s not wrong, there’s even 1 point where there’s a zombie a couple of feet from you and you fired 3 gun bursts that all missed and then you switched to your melee, not sure what that was all about.
Did you see his video? he does the same multiple times and even worse lol.
He gets nailed by like 6 pox walkers for heavens sake. You guys are picking on the times that I messed up and ignoring all the shots I nailed. I am not good. I am good enough to do damnation and auric. I know this because I do them. It’s not me bragging. I can just do them. I don’t know how else to put it lol
We really need an option to opt-in and out of cross-play… Can’t stand wasting my time in a damnation game whit console player who can’t follow and take 20 year to aim and kill anything. If people like it, they an opt-in and enjoy themselves. Don’t get why this isn’t even included in the patch like every game who offer cross-play…
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Yes we had…
But it was not a plague… and they were better than a bot, so better than the average console player we can see in auric.
Problems are multiples:
- we have no social hub that is useful (don’t talk about Discord, I don’t play Discord but Darktide)
- the number of people you can block is very limited
So remains the kick system… something that can hurt more a player base than anything else…
They are all new, just like we all were at one time. The ones who don’t like the game will leave and the ones who love it like us WILL get better. Will they be able to play higher than damnation? Who knows, but FS should develop a way that we can all play with our skill level and then it won’t matter. If they repeatedly try auric and die…there rank will be so low that they won’t find anyone to play with in their skill level on that difficulty.
And we did not start at Auric…
Sorry, I don’t understand what you are trying to say