If you scroll further up in the thread, I pointed out OPs behavior multiple times in a much more courteous and structured manner, OP has directly told people not to engage with me despite me engaging in perfectly normal conversations. I was harassed by OP and his followers for these disagreements multiple times.
So you understand why I have chosen to no longer be “nice” to someone like this.
I’d argue normalizing lying is a far worse thing to have around than a couple of mean words towards someone who deserves it.
Looks to me like they’re being modded for the same thing you might be being reported on here, going off topic and bringing in drama from another forum.
If you felt you were misrepresented, just clarify and move on, it’s unlikely it’s personally affecting beyond the forum unless you make it something that goes beyond a forum, which is what I’m seeing here.
Devolving into personal attacks just undermines any point you try to make or anything you are trying to achieve.
The issue is that Steam by default does not allow you to “clarify” because pointing out someone is lying, even with evidence, breaks their “naming and shaming” rule, which is funny because my comment “clarifying” got deleted in 5 minutes, but the post he made that I just showed you was deleted just a little bit before I went to grab the link for it again.
What this allows is people to slander someone to indicate to other people active in the discussion that someone is not worth listening to, and in turn, passively ejecting them from the conversation, actively suppressing anyone who doesn’t agree with them.
I don’t understand how someone saying mean things overrides lying/slandering that person saying mean things. This reads explicitly like victim blaming
But why bring it up here is my main point. Even if, hypothetically, the other person is everything you say they are, devolving into insults and personal attacks just undermines every point and action you do here.
Take a step back and have a look at the whole thing overall and try to see how you are presenting yourself to any third party here. Even if you were wronged, resorting to hysterics doesn’t really help you in any way.
If you scrolled up a bit, you’d realize you should be asking OP the same question. “Why bring it up here”.
To be clear, this isn’t talking about me because I avoided this and the steam thread for a good couple of weeks but you notice the passive attempt at dismissing 2 vague individuals and lying about what they did. Oak was very much involved in the closure of the steam thread he mentions here, but I doubt he’ll mention that.
I read it as the original post asking why Fatshark closed the Steam thread, and Catfish replied saying that it got derailed and users were attacking each other more than discussing the topic. That probably should be /thread right there for that part of the topic, but you are the one that keeps bringing it back up again. The OP might have been involved in that thread being closed, but that is there and here is here.
The thread is still talking about the other points of the topic, which is why it’s still open, but you seem to be the one that trying to settle some kind of vendetta when it seems to have mostly moved on past that.
I don’t know what else I can really say but you have clarified your intent as much as you can (and in a few ways that really undermined it) but it will still be up to other people to either accept or ignore it. Calling them names will only do one of those things.
Whatever. FS aren’t going to entertain this guy’s demands anyway, that pretend acknowledgement is all he’s going to get, which is why he’s moved onto a new similar grift in another game.
Continuing defending the harasser and criticizing the victim for DARING to speak up. I’ve learned that the second you say mean words, no matter what the other person has done or said, you are now the abuser.
I’m not defending him, I’m pointing out how you are acting. Someone else being an arse doesn’t excuse you being an arse. You may have a point, but how you are presenting it drastically changes how well received it would be.
That’s neat, but have you considered that with the way this user has framed me in a light that is negative, in a way that is dishonest and manipulative, you can at least try to understand my frustration at the situation and why it may look as though you would rather blame the person who is rightfully upset at an individual because they said mean words rather than the person who has actually committed acts of dishonesty and manipulation?
I will remember this any time someone gets upset at people who use mean words towards people who may have abused or harassed them in some way.
See why this is a terrible take now? I don’t expect you to, you’ve already reached a conclusion based on what you want to believe rather than the factual information in front of you.
I guess the lesson learned here is to never defend yourself in any way, shape, or form because it turns you into the bad guy. The same lesson kids get when they have bad parents/teachers in school.
Homeslice, you’ve followed said poster across different web forums to hop into this thread 60 posts in, without being directly called out, specifically to fight with the OP over an issue that will not possibly negatively affect you regardless of outcome…seemingly just to be mad about it for its own sake. Whatever may be true about them, let it go, and stop bumping the topic so much if you’re so opposed to it.
I don’t believe either of you, but between the two, you were definitely being much more aggressive about it, lashing out at anyone saying anything that wasn’t explicitly supporting your point of view, even when they weren’t supporting the other person’s either.
They had their take and question, their question was answered and you provided your take and tried to add some more context, but your ongoing actions just make you seem like you’re taking it way too personally and is nursing a grudge, and with threads and posts deleted, it becomes a you said/they said situation.
Again, I don’t care one wit about that drama, you two should have sorted it out between the two of you, but by pulling that into a different public forum and acting the way you did at any outside disagreement you got whatever reaction you got.
Even if they quoted you out of context, consider what you posted in the first place, mockingly or not, that allowed them to quote you in that way.
You can be upset and frustrated but taking it out on a public forum is a dubious prospect at best.