Only at some degree, most of the time it’s local planetary level. For example things like imperium nobility or imperium navy is under unified imperial culture - renaissance/ghotic style. And both ghotic and high-gothic languages are dominating aswell. Ornaments like skulls are everywere, cause of martyrdom/fatality/duty mentality.
So there is, otherwise it wouldn’t be an empire, it’s just tollerant towards local planetary traditions.
Dude, just chill out. You probably just hate her because she’s not white and British. Newsflash - not everyone in 40K is white nor British. Vostroyans, for example are a planet of Cossacks. Space Cossacks. Besides, it’s not your right to dictate what’s lore accurate. Fatshark has to have GW themselves greenlight virtually every speck of dust in both of their Vermintide games as well as Darktide. Masozi’s accent, character design, etc. was greenlit by GW themselves and their word is the final one for canon.
my biggest gripe with the banter, is that a lot of it is exposition,
like why are some criminals talking about stuff they should never heard of in the slums, its not like the imperium delivers a freshly pressed newspaper to citizen yet alone agriworld or slumhivers
Disgusting, get your posturing out of here. No one said a damned thing about race, and not one of us intended it either. I have just as much of a problem with Hallowette as I do with Masozi, being mission handlers. And I also find Zola’s voice equally grating. Same reasons, different people. I couldn’t give a skavens bladder what their skin colour is, I’m talking about maintaining the feel of immersion. Thats done through voice direction, as in, the people directing the voice actors in the studio.
I really, really don’t like you Nayl. You’re a vile human.
Savant, for example, was an enforcer, but did something (disobedience, refusing to arrest people they thought were innocent, refusing to carry out a murder order, etc.) that got him imprisoned.
I do not know what the Ogryn did wrong. That might be the class that makes the least sense to me as a prisoner.
The second is the Zealot, who is far too fond of the God Emperor.
The Agitator I can maybe imagine as a prisoner because he’s so snooty and snobby, and I can imagine him wanting to get rid of people who bother him. However I believe that the Agitator was upper class?
Maybe they just got on someone powerful’s wrong side?
But overall I get the feeling that the Zealot is exactly what the Inquisition would like.
Would have loved Darktide to have less banter and meme talk in general and more serious tones.
I see where you are coming from yet I think the racism club was unwarrented here.
OP is obviously annoyed that their own head-canon and the actual canon established by the game don’t match - that is actually pretty understandable and not neccessary a sign of racist agenda.
Their head 40k seems still stuck in the 80’s when it was actually just a satirical mirror for british society - something the franchise has long time outgrown by now. What I don’t undertand is that people with Commonwealth accents would fit that version of the world actually quite well, wouldn’t they?
I think OP just has to deal with the fact that head-canon isn’t actual canon. Happens to me all the time.
In my head steel legionairys speak with a Ruhr-valley-worker accent - Morrow doesn’t.
Furthermore Low Gothic isn’t English. Whicjh means accents aren’t tied to real world regions but meant to represent something. So Masozi has a more exotic background - in the vast imperium being considered exotic shouldn’t be hard once you travel to a different system.
Or one of the many other languages spoken as mothertongue in the nations that once were part of the USSR.
In Germany I can say that some ethnic minorities do have recognizable accents - although obviously not everyone with that ethnic background speaks this accent. This happens whenever a minority creates/is forced into it’s own subculture. In Germany it’s not typical for Black people - the best equivalent to Black American English in Germany is propably Turkish-German.
When Volga-Germans still lived all over the USSR did they have some recognizable accent in Russian? Honest question - I have no clue.
Please at least give her a better portrait image. It looks ridiculous. But +1 on the idea of allowing us to disable the radio chatter, I strongly dislike Hallowette and would love to not have to hear her.
Could have been nothern English, too. The island’s equivalent of the Ruhr-Area
But the esthetics are to German to be honest ;-), most of the helmets resemble the old Wehrmacht/Reichwehr helmets.
The Imperial Aquila necklaces arenvery similar to those of the Feldjäger (hence their nickname “Kettenhunde”) of the Wehrmacht.
In the very end: the Imperium’s cultural tolerence is, what makes it such a lovely place lol
This game is set 38 Millennia in the future, on another world, speaking bastardized version of a long-dead language repurposed to serve as a futuristic stand-in, amongst a galaxy spanning empire spanning seven digits worth of planets, fighting over a Hive city with more people crammed inside than modern day Earth encompasses in total. The players and nearly everyone they come into contact with are expendable human flesh skimmed off the top of the pool of scum that might possibly be of some value before being expended.
We are not playing regular Imperial forces. These are not Space Marines, Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, Custodes, Skitarii, Sororitas, Guardsmen, or even PDF.
Grendyl and his host battling through Atoma are most closely compared with Yvgeny Prigozhin and Wagner PMC with their conscript convicts fighting through Bakhmut being the players. All kinds of people from all over the world with all types of histories are taken, traditional military/social ranks and structures do not apply and personal connections dominate, norms and rules are broken, typically unacceptable actions are commonplace, discipline is often arbitrary and harsh and brutal. Fatalism is high, objectives are insane, and casualties are extreme.
Being concerned about a side-character’s ethnic accent in such a situation is…beyond absurd.
Particularly given the concern over how “British” they apparently need to sound. London is famous for the fact that it’s probably the singularly most cosmopolitan city on Earth, where more accents and languages can be heard walking down the street than just about anywhere else.
You are missing the point and making a mess mixing 40k stuff with real life.
Are you talking about latin or english? Both of those languages are pretty much alive in 40k. No such thing as long dead.
Sure, in the Imperium being concerned about it, it’s a nonsense. But this is a forum with real people making observations about how lore accurate it would be to have fantasy people with those ranks giving us orders, or if having x or y accent would be correct in the setting.
London can be as cosmopolitan as it wants with people having accents of all kinds. That doesn’t change at all the existence of a british accent that is common and quite stablished in 40k.
Very well then.
With a purpose, it’s translated to the english we all know and understand perfectly, I don’t see it bastardized. And it’s been bastly voice acted by people with british and (the most common) american accent. Correct?
A side commentary, shouldn’t every high gothic native speakers… speak english with something similar to a spanish/italian accent?
if you had spoken low gothic for all your life, you should be translated with modern day, british, but many don’t speak low gothic as mother tongue.
also since its a translation you can translate to any language you want, as long as you portray a outsider tongue with a different accent, you’re being consistent to the setting ¯_(ツ)_/¯
honestly the way the language barrier is described, the setting might have an unrealistic over representation of britisch.
Of course, that’s the reason we have different accents stablished in the lore, like german or russian.
Which I think it’s mostly the reason people are complaining about the weird accent Masozi has. People can track certain accents to a determined world or population. In her case, they can’t do it. You can argue that it could be such a small minority that it can’t be tracked, yes… but its very unsatisfactory as an answer.
I agree! But that’s just how the mayority people learned the setting and it’s represented in their head. I don’t think people are necessarily bothered by the existence of different accents withing the setting, but by a lack of lore backing it up.
I personally don’t mind her, I find her amusing. What I don’t like is having a pilot making comments about the mission. But as someone commented, it might be kinda coherent because of her rank.
Thing is that someone in the comments started saying that this was about “white” accents. Very far fetched.
Speaking of, we have a psyker with a french accent. Is there any world that has a kind of french setting or is it just another small minority?
Look, I call them as I see them. OP just singled out Masozi, one of the very few (only?) dark skinned characters in the game and said that one right there, I don’t like her specifically. They literally said that they would prefer a “British” voice actor to Masozi’s current Black British voice actor. What am I to think of that? What sort of British actor would work for Masozi if not the current one? That omission is saying a lot.
I am also hearing a whole lot of lore discussion here. Lore is fun to discuss but does it matter? Lore is infinitely mutable, they’re changing it all the time. FS and Dan Abnet are literally writing new lore for this game. I have a hard time believing that anyone picked through the Lexicanum and thought hmm Masozi is out of place! And if you did, why on earth did you?
as far as i know mordian iron guard is modeled after WW1 french soldiers so i guess mordian is a frenchy planet?
i agree, even if her rank befits to command us, she wouldn’t while being assigned as the pilot of the mission.
then tbh i think they don’t know the setting well, its precisely crafted to allow just that, self inserts and exploration of new concepts, its so blatantly widely known that i would question if that person is a 40k fan for long
Well, I hope GW doesn’t take long to make a guard regiment of gauchos.
It does. If GW says that the accent comes from x planet and makes stories about it, you won’t get people comenting on how accurate it is to the setting.
I pointed out to both Mazosi and Hallowette for various reasons, none of them is their skin color, same as op. Am I racist? Are we racist?
I would call it an inaccuracy more than an omission. And it says a lot only to you man, you are desperately trying to see things that are not necessarily there. Why?
If op goes down that line of discrimination you talk about so much… shouldn’t they point out the voice of the male savant psyker too?