I don't like Masozi and Hallowette

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Hallowette threatened rather blatantly to kill Sergeant-Major Morrow, an Inquisitorial agent on a voiceline I heard recently. She’s blatantly running ‘below board’ operations with unauthorized ops involving Inquisitorial assets(us), sending us out on runs to make her and her friends richer at the expense of our equipment and possibly our lives… Which the Inquisition needs. Blatantly, at that! I’m going to stop using that word now. Look, I get it, this isn’t even our ship, it’s Brahm’s. That’s my point. Our resources are limited.

This conduct isn’t acceptable. In addition, she has zero respect for the authority of others and outside of running her cash shop that’s objectively worse than Vermintide’s(but that’s another thread), she doesn’t do a lot for the ship.

I just can’t wrap my head around it. Why is she allowed to be so disrespectful and outright threatening to an Inquisitorial agent in Warhammer 40k? Threatening someone in Morrow’s position doesn’t typically go over well. I get that it’s being played off as he sees her for the paper tiger she is and brushes her off, but this is an info-monitored hellscape of a setting, you’d better believe others are listening and there will be reactions.

… As for Masozi, I don’t mind her as a pilot, but why’s she narrating missions? Doesn’t she have to fly the ship? She also bullies me and bosses me around even if I’m doing a good job!

I’ll have you know that it was different when they bullied me on Cadia. Nobody bullies like a Cadian. It had more character, more spirit. That Morrow, I like him, I want to see more of him. Reminds me of Cadia. There were lots of good men like him on Cadia.

Man, I love Cadia-- Anyway, yeah, one more point I wanted to make about Masozi-- She’s way too upbeat. This is, again, Warhammer 40k. She talks and acts like a Marvel protagonist, like the quirky dialogue and constant making fun of everything seems out of place with the grinding, awful nature of the world we’re playing in. A little levity is fine, welcome, even, but she comes across as outright irreverent of everything that’s happening.

Anyway, just wanted to give my opinion on this one, fellow Cadians.

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She’s part of the Rogue Trader retinue, so basically she’s untouchable unless Brahm throw her to the gutter.

And threatening an Inquisitor is a death wish, but his agent not as much.

Lol

You’re just being a weirdo you know, she isn’t moribund but she sound fine

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Yea Hallowette is terribly written. I love the looks and her voice tho.

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You realize that Masozi holds the rank of Lieutenant? And as she is a pilot she must be navy (as in the Imperium flying is navy business). That means she outranks Morrow by far!
Navy Lieutenat is an army Captain.
She is the same rank as Zola, but Zola is Interogator to be (Explicator) which ranks her higher …

And to be fair for her charackter, she is exactly like most pilots I know …

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Rogue Traders get their ‘immunity’ when they’re outside Imperial space. When they’re in Imperial space, they’re still subject to Imperial law, they can’t just do whatever they want. If you insult an Inquisitor, you still get made into a Servitor. If you mock a Space Marine, he can still punch your head into the next solar system over.

Unimportant, replaceable agents are even less immune to consequence.

Certainly they are not invulnerable when an Inquisitor is literally on the same ship and his or her agents are engaged in a life-or-death struggle with Chaos for the fate of a world with trillions of people on it. There’s already been said to be friction on the ship-- and open death threats are crossing a dangerous threshold. This kind of thing would be what ignites this powder keg and results in gunfire if not resolved amicably. Death threats being exchanged like this would be punished.

‘Weirdo’? Masozi doesn’t have a serious line in the game. She’s a joke character, but not the kind of joke character that lands in this sort of setting. If she’s meant to be funny, I don’t find her funny, and she doesn’t come across as cool and in-character like Morrow, Zola or Rannick. Or Hadron, for that matter. See, when HADRON bullies me, it’s different.

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Like most onions, you have to let them cook.

I remember despising Saltzpyre and Sienna, they were so whinny when I first started playing vermintide! Now they’re (among everyone else in the cast) my absolute favorite.

I don’t think Masozi or Hallowette will get close to compare, but maybe in time their personalities will begin to bloom, preferably deep fried.

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It depends on the Inquisitor and his political philosophy, for example the Amalathians (like young Eisenhorn), they try to work within the rules of the Imperium even though they have the power to just do what they think necessary…

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I’m aware. Like I said, I don’t even mind Masozi as a pilot. A little bit of fun is expected given the job and the gallows humor associated with it.

But I find her demeanor a little too irreverent, comes across as her just being a totally unserious character who’s just here to make Marvel quips and mess around. Masozi’s cheer and disposition are so present and unflinching and not even acknowledging of how bad things are on Tertium and the rest of the planet that it comes across as grating to me.

And unlike the rest of the characters-- Even Hadron-- she isn’t supportive of me!

Everybody says to the Reject, ‘Go here, do this, find this, shoot that heretic!’

Nobody asks the Reject, ‘How you doing, man?’

Back on Cadia, they’d have scheduled me a summary execution for being sad. And you know what? It built character. It made us all who we are.

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I certainly hope that is the case. I was always a huge fan of John Vermintide, Lohner himself.

But over time, he became even cooler. Perhaps they can graduate to having a bit more depth to them like the good and universally acclaimed Sire Darius Melk.

What a fantastic character with no flaws.

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the inquisitor has…“borrowed” the rouge trader’s ship for this conflict, which is WAY outside of the norms and if the rouge trader decides the inquisitor is the one violating her rights given to her by the emperor the inquisitor is the one screwed. hallowette is currently too important to touch for grendyl if they want to not be dragged forcibly from atoma by their higher ups and explain why they’re interfering with the emperor’s plans but as the same time stuck assisting the inquisitor’s poorly-explained plan to her personal detriment because the current circumstances require it of her. she could probably have us all killed with no explination but that thankfully ALSO doesn’t serve her needs.

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You know she’s high on basically every stimm at once, right?

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Pretty sure Hallowette being super duper annoying is precisely what the writers were going for.
Essentially, you hate her. They did a good job. You’re supposed to hate her.

The fact she is the one handing out your cosmetic whale rewards wasn’t an accident, either.

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That I find extremely funny. It is one of the things that lends credence to the idea that Fatshark leadership demanded this particular anti-player aspect of the game and so the devs implemented it deliberately annoyingly.

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Yeah, why overpay to waste the talents of Sci-Fi mommy Claudia Black to be the voice of your garbage shill shop when Chav Rogue Trader will do.

I’m actually serious about this who would hire Claudia Black to run lines for their game if they’re just going to waste her in a cash shop? HUH, BUNGIE?

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I really don’t. The voice acting sounds either like a poor attempt to perform a Bristolian accent, or perhaps the original voice actress does have a Bristolian accent and possibly how they’ve modulated it makes it sound so weird. One of my friends I play with lives in Bristol, UK, and has done for many years. He struggles with her voice as well.

She does have the odd serious line on the Mourning Star, but I think its pretty much only when she’s asked about the training of the Thunderbolt pilots and flying stuff. I think her levity-based voice lines in mission are not necessarily meant to be funny ha-ha, but to reflect that her job is extremely dangerous and at any moment on a flight she might come under attack; being rigid and formal may jar against that too much. It may be she’s seen too much and come close to death multiple times and is unable to be properly serious for long. There’s a difference between that and the NPCs lines of, say, Jedi: Fallen Order, where jokes are jammed in and thrust into your face to be funny.

Absolutely agree with you here. An Inquisitorial Agent is a representation of an Inquisitor and their authority, and by verbally attacking such a representative there would possibly be repercussions. It may be that Morrow has a thick skin and knows his worth is more than her bleating and attempting to threaten him and doesn’t report it up the chain, especially with big problems looming at the Hive.

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So, this whole thing is Inquisitor Grendyls private warband, running in effect his own private war like a Mafia family runs its affairs.

The closest thing you’ll find to Grendyls Warband in real life was Wagner, an organization run by a former caterer-convict that featured elite former spec ops mercenaries alongside brain-addled violent prisoners under suspended sentence, running their own slice of conflict on their own terms, and that operated in much the same way as any violent cartel or organized crime family where loyalties and chains of command are built around individuals and not specific titles. This was an organization undertaking military roles but under their own discipline and running their own financial affairs, with stakes in everything from direct military contracts to resource extraction. Higher up members ran their own schemes, and many elements often did things that undercut the group’s larger mission. Nothing about Hallowette seems out of place when placed in such a context.

Also, Hallowette bears the rank of Commodore, in effect outranking even the Shipmistress in naval terms. If this title is correct, this would make her either former senior Imperial Navy, or a very successful Rogue Trader with multiple vessels (at least in some point in life). Grendyl obviously finds use in Hallowette and her methods, she feels free to operate openly as she does for a reason (it’s no secret) and I suspect asking too many questions on board about why Hallowette can do what she wants will end up getting a suspicious Reject airlocked. We have no idea what else Hallowette may or may not be up to or providing.

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Saltzpyre was my absolute favorite in VT1, his expositions are so amazing they had to reuse his healing lines in VT2 by community request. If only they would have reused his ‘My nightmare comes! Good!’ when hordes appear. They really flanderized the cast in VT2, even the elf is no where near as cold as she should be.

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Sergeant Major Morrow is one of my favourites - his new voicelines for Chasm Station just go so hard.

Wolfer: “So much striving and all for nothing.”
Morrow: “The Emperor’s with us, you’ve got nothing.”

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I quite like Hallowette as a character, rogue trader crews should be full of interesting characters imho. That said I don’t like that she turns her attitude on the player at the cash shop. “No refunds!” would be cute if it were for in game currency but as it’s for cash it hits different.

Nothing wrong with Masozi, don’t get the complaints.

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…She is?

That…

That, I wasn’t aware of. Honestly, that explains a lot.

If I had known that I’d have been more forgiving.