The Skitarii / admech request archive

The authority of the Inquisition is indeed absolute, but the issue is more the idea of finding a Skitarii on their lonesome, intact, in a prison cell and used as literal cannon fodder alongside hive scum, feels very contrived. A Skitarii is also just in general a higher level of combatant than the existing classes. Same way we have Zealots, but don’t have actual Sororitas that would be more comparable to a Skitarii.

That’s the origin Fatshark went with and how they present the game and interact with the fan base however, so that’s how I’ve been viewing the idea of a Skitarii inclusion.

Not immediately however (as you do have to level up to get access to different weapons), and aside from Thunderhammers, they’re all weapons you can find or that are available in some form to the most basic of Guard infantry units (even if they may not be ubiquitous).

Likewise, even the most basic and weak of psykers, with no business and no ability in melee combat, get powerful psychic weapons, as without something to channel those powers they’re significantly less useful. Hence why in the current tabletop game, an otherwise largely helpless Astropath gets a stick that lets them hit (with their single attack) harder than an Ogryn.

Thunderhammers are really the only weapon that stands out as particularly odd, especially as we don’t have Powerfists which are ostensibly simpler. But everything else in this game one could find in a basic Guard combat patrol and be completely unsurprised.

Having an alternative origin would help that aspect, though it would be a departure from the current batch of characters.

Aye yeah, where a Skitarii would feel out of place, a Tech Adept or the like I could see working just fine.

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3 of those weapons could be used by another career.

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Fair, but still mean that half of those were Prem career only (Which was the case for all the Prem career if memory work)

But still remain that using the current/sharing weapons isn’t a problem, there are problems toward new archetypes, but that one isn’t one

Not that I want this to happen, but as a Star Wars fan, I will probably partake in a bit of schadenfreude once 40k becomes so mainstream the lore/common sense gets thrown to the side every other opportunity in favor of a quick buck.

Only in recent years do I truly understand how Trekkies must feel. Something something, every other Trek movie is a good one, something something.

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I mean, being fair, it does happen a lot to 40k. Hell, that’s half of what caused Warhammer Fantasy to get blown up (aside from needing a minimum of 2500pts to play anywhere and “what do you mean I need to buy, build, and paint 300 Skavenslaves to win a tournament?”) because most of the factions were just never in a position to come into contact with each other outside of absurdly contrived scenarios. 40k has all sorts of lore weirdness, it all mutates and changes over time, some stuff changes rapidly between editions.

Even the original Skitarii release back in 7E was weird, as it got split into two different factions (literally just so there could be White Dwarf content for an extra month), and Skitarii got a bunch of new lore about how they don’t use transports (yes…the Admech apparently didn’t use transports…because GW didn’t have a transport model ready for the initial launch), only for a transport to be put out the next edition a couple years later and bury that lore :rofl:

Doesn’t stop some things from just feeling weird however even with all the sillyness, same as it is in Star Trek and Star Wars.

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All fair points, but these are but trifles in comparison to the theoretical sheckles to be made at the behest of what the marketing team thinks the mainstream audience would like.

I await the next 20 years with bated breath. Space Hulk: Lower Decks, anyone? Maybe a random ratling character in the amazon series will get their own spinoff show.

Jokes aside, Andor was really good. I really wanted Acolyte to be good too. What a waste of hiring Carrie-Anne Moss for 5 seconds of screen time. Might as well just have wilhelmed her, would have been funny.

I’m glad Total War is old world fantasy too, Vermintide was the first time I really got into WH:F, only to be immediately disappointed in finding that the setting was already blown up.

I care not for Sigmarines and this weird Asgard/Discworld plane-sphere setting. Not that I have anything against Discworld.

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I’d watch the hell out of that, Lower Decks was some of the best Star Trek in decades, and the animated Rick-n-Morty nature let some of the more absurd stuff work.

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I wanna play Lego Warhammer 40k personally.

Darktide, the adult animation
“And then he turned himself into an auspex, funniest s**t I’ve ever seen”

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There’s already that Warhammer for kids series:

We’re kind of there, but I risk derail on telling you why.

More to the point, anyone seen any more skitarii threads I should add? I’m not as good as this as bros.

A Secutor would be the kind that fits in the category of such as it would fit the melee and ranged branch of a skill tree (its tanky form complimentary to an Ogryn)

Secutors bear “martial enhancements such as pistol-armed mechadendrites, brutal close combat weapons and the special machinator array that vastly enhances their bulk, armours up their internal organs and increases the ability for weapon systems to interface with their implants”

“Secutors are sent along with explorator fleets, Imperial Guard regiments and Rogue Traders to retrieve ancient technology, often where such retrieval is made extremely dangerous by the presence of xenos or Chaos forces, and the martial skill of a Secutor is needed to ensure the protection of tech-treasures.[1b]”

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Secutor

Many are expecting something like an Enginseer whom would have 1 or 2 combat servitors (with melee and or ranged) , Enginseer melee would have the Wrench-Axe, Mechadendrites, maybe a pistol for ranged as well. Can have a personal force field shield too. One of the blitzes can incorporate a servo-skull?

In that case this would fit the Support role in skill tree (akin to shield psyker meets support vet or zealot)

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Enginseer

As for a 3rd to put into the sub-archetype I’m attempting to look more of what fits…
Tech-Assassin aka Mech-Assassin! (Hacker assassin with mechanical slashy cybernetics and tricks! Something between a Psyker altering mechanical things with the stealth zealot/vet feel mixed in)

It uses Stealth,
offers weapon enhancement passive to teammates in coherency,
wields Bladed Mechadendrites
Can opt to go into a Frenzy on command,
Can cause enemies weapons to malfunction,
Booby traps (like mines or barrels/pipes explode upon highlighted command)

“An Acuitor Mech-Assassin’s honed, clicking mind allows him to utilise nearly anything as a lethal weapon; steam pipes become a scalding trap to an unwary passer-by, a firearm becomes a timebomb for its user, and an ancient cogitator becomes a shadowy maze from which a known Heretek’s mind cannot escape, even as his body sits helpless before it.”

So this can be all as options within the
Tech-Priest archetype
Using the skill tree there is certain equipment and cosmetics than can be bound to the skill tree to match these sub-archetypes (Secutor is the only one that looks vastly different from the Enginseer and Acuitor Mech-Assassin whom usually have the robes and melee-oriented Mechadendrites)

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The problem is that strictly speaking a Tech Priest (So someone that has already sworn to the Omnissiah and the Machine god) wouldn’t be freed to be sent to the Inquisition, while on the other if we pick people that instead have not yet achieved those ranks, we avoid that problem whole sale.

Same aesthetic, same weapons (though keeping that they’re working alongside the current weapons, so not some of the more esoteric ones), but much more easily introduced.

Now you can also carry out the Emperor’s will as a Tech-Adept Inquisitor, a former acolyte of the Adeptus Mechanicus who decided to join the Holy Ordos to become one of the mightiest agents of the Imperium; combining the sacred technological mysteries with the relentless dogma of the Inquisition, he has become an unstoppable force. Or continue the unfolding saga of the Alpha Pariah with one of the original three classes introduced in Warhammer 40,000: Inquisitor - Martyr in a Caligari Sector slowly succumbing to madness and war.

Tech priests work with the guard and the Inquisition yes, would be part of this inquisitorial henchmen dynamic

But when thrown into the Penal system they would go to admech facilities and not a Penal legion.

Hence they wouldn’t work as Reject, while Tech Adept could

They could be shipping faulty/to-be-refurbished units on the prison ship since it was going the right direction.

The reason I don’t mind having Skitarii is simple.

We have psykers.

Psykers who SHOULD be handled pretty much exclusively by the Black Ships going strictly by the lore, but who instead are just tossed onto a regular prison ship with a psykana collar.

What’s some malfunctioning/condemned tech-adepts, Skittles, or other AdMech guys compared to ‘you should be being fed to the golden skeleton’?

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With the ademdum that they are on the Prison Barge en route to be sent to specialised Psyker prisons

Which can also work for Tech Adept

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In the defense of stick-shaking loreheads, in an age of “Somehow Palpatine returned” I can see why some people cling to established canon.

But honestly, having a mechanicus related class in Darktide is not so contrived. Most naysayers are probably just worried it will be done poorly so they would rather not have it at all.

Thus they take away zero real world lessons from the franchise, like how stagnation and clinging to doctrine over trying something new isn’t always a good thing.

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Of all the other ideas on potential new archetypes, this is the only one that makes sense. It could be a broken, damaged unit and Hadron fixes it up.

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Yeah, but this isn’t anywhere close to the level of cringe brought about by disney starwars. .

This works. Almost-Dead Skitarii reclaimed by inquisition with the grudging approval of the own tech priest advisors.