Why am I even referenced?
You liked/responded in one of the links I cited at the topā¦ I canāt remember which one specifically sorry.
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Iāve some experience in quality management:
Depending on the product and study between 5-30% of customers actually complain. There is a huge ādark numberā of customers that simply leave the product and go for alterantive offered by competitors. Moreover, people are more likely to share the negative experiences made with the said product, than the positive ones.
This thread is a monument of customer unsatisfaction and it is just a tip of the iceberg. I do not even wish to know how many people left the game, shared their negative experience and discouraged their friends from playing.
For us it means a loss of many good players, because as the old saying goes: the more the merrier.
For Fatshark it means financial losses made in the name of a failed concept. Good kings knows when to hold onto idea, best king knows when to give it up and back down.
The progression is atrocious and the the fact that barely any actions have been made in the last half year to ease that issue speaks volumes. The countermeasures made so far are literal drop in the bucket.
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At this point, the only thing that might bring them to the table is a boycott
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Not that I ever participated in the discussion much because I didnāt buy this game; but at this point, iām pretty much done with FatShark games for the time being. Donāt really even have a desire to play the new map on V2. Sure Iāll stick around from time to time to see whatās going down. And at least there are funny and entertaining posts here and there. But for the time being my stance on all this is that I donāt care what FS has upcoming and planned.
They disrespect their players for every day that they outright ignore this topic and honestly my respect for them has plummeted to a solid 0. But hey this isnāt some big thing where Tide games consume 50% of my life and Iām devastated by their lack of communication. I spend what a minute or five like once a week on these forums now while Iām working just to see how the games doing.
To add and reiterate, I donāt care if they are intentionally ignoring lock discussion for some big reveal where they fix everything and introduce red tier gear and all the crafting gets overhauled. If that was the case players should be even more pissed because the solution they had was there all along and they distinctly chose an anti-player system over the better one from beta.
None of what FS does looks good. One HotFix introduces more bugs. Prioritizing cash shop over gameplay and queue the meme of a skeleton sitting on a chair underwater for whatever the phuk idk, developing the game is. Posting community messages and blatantly ignoring posts constantly asking for insight on locks. Have you ever responded to @Shacobi once you guys? Hes like one of the first guys who posts whenever FS drops update announcements on the forums? And yeah you can say āOh but he doesnāt say it nicely or he only talks about Locksā then I donāt know? Maybe address him so he doesnāt have to keep asking while annoyed?
Like what the actual hell is going on? Is Games Workshop holding a gun to your head? Are you giving up and just focusing on V2? I didnāt even buy this game and Iām really baffled at the massive amount of incompetence and I donāt even know who to be mad at. Is it the suits? The devs? Head dev? Like what does talking to @FatsharkCatfish accomplish since I donāt even know if theyāre allowed to respond about Locks or not and clearly they arenāt telling anything anytime soon.
Also itās very obvious who the 3 heretics you refer to are. Itās actually funny since hiding their identities does nothing and anyone who spends a day on the forums will instantly know who they are. And please, like anybody is going to dogpile them even if they are named. Weāre @55holes and hate eachother but even we have standards here.
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Oh, thank you for the shout out!
Still here, more or less, just lost interest in Darktide and have been playing other games instead.
Canāt say Iām super optimistic about Fatshark changing the crafting soon, or the gameās support even lasting long enough to make a comeback.
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Thereās no point tagging me for Darktide ā¦anythingā¦ because the game belongs in the toilet. Itās over for me. Come back in 5 years if they havenāt shut down servers by then.
Anyone trying to figure out what kind of mind-numbing bullshittery is going on at FS HQ to even arrive at this level of hopelessness is in for a bad time.
Give it up. Whoever is making game design decisions has clearly been clocked on the head with a bowling ball and is making decisions with a significant concussion.
In terms of ignoring and denying a spectacular monumental f*ckup Fatshark are currently at the level of Magnus Did Nothing Wrong .
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who are these three heretics and how can i join them? sounds badass
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Well, to kill your darlings is probably whats hardest in any creative field. I, for one, just wonder whoās in charge of that decision this time around. I mean, someone at the top should be more hungry for money and success and just kill everything that creates this kind of dissatisfaction.
Kill them darlings already.
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a little over 100k people played it at first, and now weāre at around 5k. Thatās how many people left, albeit not entirely bc of the crafting, but Iām sure it was a contributing factor for a lot of them.
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you legend xD
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BreakTheLocks
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i see where youāre coming from, but fatshark canāt really afford to drop DT to start a new game or its at least unlikely,
big companies like EA Ubisoft etc can do that because they have enough income from across their selection of IPās so having a bad apple while painful they retain enough funding to start a new project without problems
Darktide is ought to be different as its fatsharks third ābigā game, its quite unlikely that a "āliveserviceā game with suspended monetization and huge dip in players can support a entirely new project,
of course thereās always daddy tencent, who could fund them.
would they tho, with such a big disappointment at hand idk
long story short, Fatsharks own interests are Darktide to be an success, if not mandatory for them to stay on the market.
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After the last disappointing patch, the awful randomness of crafting and the apathetic communication that seems to be the norm here after the first enthusiastic months of @FatsharkCatfish debuts, I have kind of decided not to play at all anymore even for a few random games.
Dragging their numbers down seems the only way we have to make them do some relevant changes to their hideous 1 hour shop and random 95% resource wasting crafting system.
It took Fatshark more than 6+ (or was it 10, whatever) months to bring a semblance of balance to Sisters of Thorn in VT2.
At some point, one needs to accept itās a company repeatedly embracing those shitty moves towards their player base.
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When it comes to sott and vt2 stuff, they only had to interact with people who were already invested in their game, so the impact on their bottom line isnāt as pronounced as ones in darktide, where a larger and novel audience is now part of their demographic (of which they also failed to maintain nearly immediately).
We still get new people coming in to complain, and itās either about performance, the crafting, or lack of new content. They could alleviate the crafting frustrations extremely easily from a dev point of view, but there are likely other factors other than just the players that are dictating their decisions in this front. The lack of content is also likely their own fault for mismanaging their resources into trying to finish development on the console release.
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I still live! To a degree. Though I have uninstalled for the time being.
Now Iām spending time playing Aliens Fireteam Elite, which while it definitely has itās jank, it doesnāt have the fun sapping support systems Darktide has.
And also Star Rail. Trying to collect all the Bronyas, so far, zero. (Itās RNG but at least I know what kind of RNG I signed up for with Star Rail).
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Is this supposed to be a public shaming thread for having an opinion that RNG, crafting, and all that are fine mechanics (regardless of current implementation)?
Iām trying to figure out why I was tagged, and it seems to be a public shaming thread originally.
Not intended to shame. The opposite. Genuine reverence for all the people constantly providing feedback about wanting to improve the predatory crafting systems despite the devs and community managers seeming to have gag orders on bringing this up. Included myself in the list. Was just trying to also be a bit cheeky and fun, get some jokes in there, set the tone.
For you specifically there was 1 or more of the threads you responded and/or liked and seemed to show support for wanting the crafting system to change.
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Iām too tired to play darktide anymore. Iāve spend 11k of plasteel in one go on upgrades of 5 curios and 3,5 weapons (4th one was not fully upgraded).
Iāve bricked 2 curios with āgreenā base rating of 80 and 79. Why curios with such base can still roll out all 3 perks on 3rd lvl with experience as one of the perk no less?
I donāt have strength to stockpile plasteel again. I have 21k of Diamantine Iāve got nothing to do with and collection of over 40 bricked weapons with ratings between 375-380. Iām done. Hope Space Marine 2 comes out soon.
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