Sister of the Thorn

To be honest i think if you play her without radiance or doom+razori think she´d be on the weak side instead.

What ought to happen now is that the combination of all 3 should be rendered impossible, razor should have a stack cap and radiance needs either a stats nerf or a duration one.

Alternatively it could be a thing that razor stacks are not used while radiance is active, that might work too, with radiance being nerfed a bit too of course.

why are you crying? Is the passive aggressiveness necessary? It’s a high risk high reward play. You have damage but don’t have block. You can basically do that now. Plus Hunter only affects one armor type at a time.

From what i can tell Grail Knights and sisters are basically the same thing, god blessed warriors.

That said, there are some interactions and boosts stacking/high baseline that should not be a thing for balance.

I really doubt it. My first few plays on her were without any of the more “op” stuff and she seemed perfectly capable.
Apart from mby level 20 talent’s seeing bit lets just say “lackluster” compared to radiant, she seems to have pretty decent amount of viable options talent wise. My first impression certainly are not that she is too weak, especially if we consider the new weapons.

Realistically Radiant should at the VERY LEAST be level 30 talent and even then I still don’t think it needs to give absolutely everything a dps career might want. Even with crit/as steroid it would still be incredibly powerful on demand.

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Yes.

Proc hunter, swap weapons, block is back.
Just slapping on the term “high risk” doesn’t somehow justify a needless buff, even if it actually were “high risk”, which it very clearly isn’t.

Increased stamina regen while holding a stack of Radiance for Incandescence would be neat and added synergy with Repel.

Hekarti’s Cruel Bargain is very difficulty dependent and even on cata isn’t all that great.
Incandescence fulfils a similar purpose if you find yourself holding onto Radiance.

dude u can already do that… stop crying. you can proc then switch already… especially with SotT and Mori-Hegs Doomsight…

Yeah if it were up to me I would have it do something else altogether. We have so many careers fighting over the title of damage hose mcstuffins it would be cool to have a talent consideration that compliments the rest of her kit rather than just straight up says “yeah just poke them to death with sharp stick very fast”

Like maybe her wall does something special when it triggers, like emitting a poison cloud or a damage reduction aura. Something you might want to save for an “oh no” moment. Maybe it creates a field of entanglement that slows enemies in an area around the wall. Those would all be cool, viable, and in line with a support kind of role.

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Having just played her without radiance, doom or razor, i disagree, she is not “perfectly capable” without at least one of those. Do remember that without em she has no potent steroid at all which kinda means just about any career can easily outpace her in output.

But sure, she isnt a complete scarecrow even then, her passive alone mean she does something as long as she is hitting her targets but if comparing her to the likes of handmaiden, merc, zealot,slayer or whatnot then she is definitely the last in the line.

I actually kinda disagree, i think the level 30 row is kinda fine although the blackvenom thicket feels weak/subpar. What i think should happen is some careful nerfs to radiance along with doomsight&their synergy. I think that alone would go a long way.

A build i tried and enjoyed was like this : https://www.ranaldsgift.com/18/131311/27,4,3,6/30,1,2,2/3,2,5/1,4,2/7,2,2

It was using radiance and indeed, i could tear through a horde with that, but it did not feel outrageously powerful still…except boss damage.

Boss damage need to take a hit.

Okey, so since you already can do that, why are you “crying” for them to add it to the melee?
Obviously, because it’s more time consuming to use a ranged weapon. Big newsflash for you, but 3/4 careers dont have on demand crit.

Being able to play supportively or as a pure DPS is great.

I think the value from Radiant Inheretance, when combined with Hunter and Bloodrazor Thicket may need looking into.

I think below Cata+ she’s more valuable as a pure DPS, and above that the wall’s double knock and 20% damage increase with Blackvenom Thicket is good. Hekarti’s Cruel Bargin, would have been a viable option on Cata+, if RI wasn’t so good.

Does the new Staff put the enemies in a full staggered state?

I think I read that it does not count as stagger but that’s second hand info.

One cool thing I’ve been doing is the double extra ult, triggering three walls, then having zero overheat on crit and 9 guaranteed crits for the staff, then floating 12 guys into the air. The potential for crowd control is great, albeit grabbing the right dudes can be tricky at times.

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Dude take a nap or go outside. Raging and crying on a forum isn’t a good look. They made Javelin have a unique attack and then they gimp it. I don’t see why they did that. The only two “problem traits” are barrage and hunter and they already have built in restraints. A shade can get hunter with moonfire bow and switch that can literally be done with every ranged weapon. Also SotT isn’t the only career that has crit on demand. Learn the game before speaking.

Calm it with the ad homs there homie, no need to be throwing a tantrum. Amirite? :^)

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About Radiant Inheritence : I don’t mind the steroid numbers. When it procs, it feels good and it is absolutely insane ; but I’m ok with the power increase since I think that’s what was intended when they designed the talent.
I’m not ok with the 15 seconds duration. If it were 3 seconds or 5 at most it’d be overall balanced I think, it could maybe also increase Radiance’s cooldown to 2 minutes to compensate the sheer deleting power she has.
At the moment she is absolutely the best bosskiller in the game with Atharti’s Delight, Radiant Inheritence, Morai-Hag’s Doomsight and Bloodrazor Thicket.

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Yeah, it feels kind of awkward though, imo. The first time we killed a few Bosses with it, we didn’t really know why the Bosses melted. Not sure what can be done about it tbh.

She already gets a Boss knock and LoS, so I dunno if she needs so much bursty Boss killing. Passively high or requiring headshots, like the Javelin, is fine though.

CataRun.
Addaioth’s Splendour and guaranteed crits.
Staff procs 3xstagger and only uses 1 charge from the crits.

Anything below 10 is too short to really feel good i think, i´d rather keep the 15 seconds, even if at a somewhat reduced effect and extended cooldown.

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Hi guys the sister is alot of fun but i have to say her Balance is unfortenly so bad its beyond ridocoulis.

  • The radiance steroid thing is completly broken.

  • her staff is the only overcharge effect wich:
    - doesn’t slow the User (no atk slow no
    dodge slow no moveslow nothing)
    - Doesn’t kill her on overload (just 40
    dmg or something)
    if i compare it with bolt staff. Ledt click
    better aim and better dps to heat
    conversion
    right click Instant disable compared to a ~1
    second Charge + travel time. Difference is
    kill for bolt and disable for sister staff with
    alot of advantage for disable like not
    missing due to taking damage instant saves
    and so on. Did i mention that sienna takes a
    heavy debuff on high Charge and can quite
    easily die if you go full where the sister
    just…

  • her lift ability is not a prpjectile (what?) but instant

  • she can vent when ever cause of her passive

  • 25% Temp HP for the Group is like almost another boon of shalya and makes this Team passive easily the best in the game.

  • her damage on low HP passive is comparable to shade but just overall easier to use

  • her ult CD is on the lower side compared to the others (ult is fine i guess but radiance is on its own already like wow)

  • almost All her Talents are on the better end

Her Overall Design is awesome but i dont under stand How you (fatshark) Managed to Release her in such a super duper ultra Power state.

I hope we See some readjustments soon because i have trouble having fun anymore if i am not on sister Charakter, seeing her manage to handle and obliterate every Situation.

Btw did my first ever Cata solo run with her.

Big Thumbs up for her Design and Art
Big Thumbs down for her balacing

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Honestly, the staff is the least OP thing about her and I enjoy it a lot (overcharge as it functions on Sienna is outdated anyway)

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