It’s more the supplementary systems around the game and the social hubs feel like an MMO. If the game play was different, the mission you went to, it could keep everything else the same and feel appropriate for MMOs. Those same systems don’t feel appropriate for the game as it is.
It needs a lot of work, yeah, and it just came out so there’s years of updates and adventure ahead.
Does that warrant not buying it?
My friends and I always say, if a game gives you an hour of playtime per € spent, that’s a good deal.
I spent 40€ on DT, already have over 100 hours in, and only have 2 characters leveled up because I’m just having so much fun playing them, I haven’t even gotten around to the others yet.
I’m fairly certain that a great deal of the people saying you should stay away from the game have a lot more time on their clocks than even I do, so you be the judge.
Is it a well polished & finished game? Hell no.
Will it be someday? With any luck yeah, we could at least reach VT2’s level.
Is it worth your money? I think it definitely is, you just have to decide if you wanna join along for the ride or not, you definitely get more fun out of it for the price than with most AAA titles, and that’s just in the current state.
That’s fair if it’s a consistent experience. I wouldn’t say it’s that black and white though.
For example there are some really good RPG games, great story but a total slog of a combat system. Looking at the time spent enjoying the game it can definitely be worth the price, but at the same you have had to waste a good number of hours doing something you don’t like to be able to get to the next good part.
I have a bit over 150 hours in Darktide. Levelling took somewhere around 120 hours, I think. I stopped enjoying the levelling aspect of the game about 15h into the first character but I knew what I was getting into, since I went through the same thing with VT2. After levelling the characters I could hypothetically start working on whatever else there was to the game. I enjoyed it for a few hours more until I realized there wasn’t anything to work towards (except extremely grindy weeklies in exchange for a worthless currency). That was before crafting dropped. After crafting dropped I haven’t really played the game at all. (I was lucky regarding performance, crashes and server issues)
I do enjoy the gameplay and one could argue that I have enjoyed a majority of those hours, but I would’ve definitely enjoyed those hours more if I was able to interact with weapons and builds etc. instead of wasting those hours on grinding superfluous levels. If I were to continue playing the current iteration of the game I would still enjoy the moment to moment gameplay, but I would actively dispyse the time speent using crafting systems+ and I the frustration I’d feel would overshadow the enjoyment by far. I’m only speaking for myself but I have seen the same frustration expressed by plenty of people that are still playing the game. So, the question is also how much of your time that you feel like the game is wasting, and what the balance is between hours spent/enjoyed/wasted/not enjoyed.
tl:dr; Hours spent doesn’t necessarily equate enjoyment.
I’m running it on the actual minimum specs and am getting pleasing performance and visuals at 1080p.
are you using FSR2 ?
I get the gist, but if every hour spend feels like work, then this deal starts looking a lot worse. I feel it is always important to weigh in just how much fun one is having while spending the hours.
No, cata is the default highest difficulty. I’m not even thinking about WoM or Chaos Wastes game modes or modded difficulty settiings. It has been a while, but I would imagine you need approx 30 hours to get one character to level 30 in VT2, similarly as in DT.
Bots in VT2 use both your talents and your gear. Otherwise they have no talents and only starter level 1 gear. I doubt he managed to play more than 40 hours in one week. No way he levelled up more than one character to level 30 or geared it. This would affect his characters power, cleave, stagger etc. etc. and their overall survivability.
Whilst bots in VT2 are slightly more competent than in DT, you are turning this into a solo game really quickly, even if your bots have good builds and gear. If the OP completed cata with bots, then jsat should hire our “I play high” random to give jsat lessons 
TL;DR: he is talking out of his a, trolling or just smokes too much.
Really? I remember one of my friends was unable to play cata with us since he didn’t want to buy the DLC with the Beastmen since he hated them. Maybe it changed since then.
I don’t have the patience to even waste 30 hours on a game I’m not having fun in, let alone well over 100 and counting
Again, it has been a while since I was <30 in VT2, but you have to unlock the cataclysm difficulty:
whatever the OPs angle here, he is wrong or trolling. Like claiming the VT2 combat is a spamfest wasn’t a dead give away.
He should probably wait on DT. If he found VT2 a spamfest, boring and not challenging, despite all the content the game comes with, early access DT experience is going to be a disappointment.
I see. Thanks for letting me know! I wasn’t aware FS removed the DLC requirement!
Don’t bother right now.
Wait 2 years, then maybe pick it up at a heavy discount.
Even so, saying he hopped into legend solo and casually sauntered through it from the start is laughable; dude’s a troll, doesn’t matter the minutiae.
If the core gameplay loop doesn’t excite you, maybe pass.
I find it more questionable that he apparently managed to level all his chars to level 35 in such a short amount of time, but hey … some people don’t have many other obligations.
Even if he is a troll he should still pass on this game.
Is dead right.