hear me out, not everybody has friends that play darktide and the ones that do often times can’t get the penance on the first try or the second or the third, not to mention that most people like to play more than one game when they’re off work and so won’t always be farming for penances on darktide when off work. not to mention that the vet and ogryn don’t have to do these so why should the other classes? it just doesn’t seem fair that the vet and ogryn aren’t forced into private games for penance completion while the psyker and the zealot are. please either change this or remove them (changing them so that they aren’t requiring private games being better than outright removing them).
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There were reasons to implement it, but there’s also a solution to “no friends in darktide”
Try LFG channels, somebody will help (that’s how I got most of those penances).
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Yes agree. It’s ridiculous. They should make those particular penances much easier if they were disturbing gameplay before, and then make them allowable in normal games.
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two problems, most people don’t want to verify their phone numbers to talk in a discord and some people don’t have phones.
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Well, no penances for you then 
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Yes that’s why it’s an issue. Requiring discord to get a penance is beyond stupid.
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You really don’t (it’s not mandatory).
The whole point is you need social interaction to complete some of them, and Discord is simply one of many tools to achieve that.
In my opinion, OP’s problem is not penance group restriction, but denial of any means of social interaction required for that.
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its actually both, i believe that forcing players to make a party with friends or random people and not including at least a way to find a party for people willing to help you within the game is wrong and should be rectified as soon as possible along with the fact that i no longer have the means to complete these penances.
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Look I’m sure everyone will agree the in game social tools are woefully inadequate, but this seems like quite the hyperbole.
There are any number of LFG options you could go for even if you can’t/won’t join the discord for whatever reason, including asking around here, or with QP teams you have good matches with.
Is it unreasonable for a game that is trying to have the cooperative element be pretty core to expect you to, in fact, be somewhat social to do some non gameplay progression affecting achievements? To my mind that’s pretty reasonable.
Ideally of course they’re simply reworked into something not so team mate griefing as to make them public again without repercussions. I don’t think the socials tools are slated for a big rework anytime soon.
Assuming it doesn’t pull any resources from more important things (almost anything else TBH) then reworking the penances then making them public is probably the best we could hope for.
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If penances give exclusive rewards then locking some points out for people who don’t have gaming friends is highly unfair.
No one “has to” do anything - it’s a game. So that is not a valid argument.
The game should provide the correct tools for creating lobbies and strike teams and communicating amongst players.
Having to use an external social platform that requires KYC or similar, simply to request some people to play an alleged co-op game is absurd.
I hate discord and will never install it. Discord had nothing to do with the game. “game requires install of discord” wasn’t on the box.
I’m not sure why you’re arguing in favour of this private game rule so please answer me this - would unlocking the locked private game penances hurt the game?
Given some of the other penances I’ve had to do that required I apologise before each match (loner penance for starters), I really don’t think it would affect much at all. I have over 4800 penance points and have had to do loads of really stupid stuff for them, none of which seems any worse than those private game penances.
Most people in game are often accommodating to people requesting help with a penance so let’s just get them unlocked.
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All of this could be resolved by adding solo mode.
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I don’t have gaming friends in darktide, and I have all those penances
Because it was implemented due to many complaints about Vets leaving matches after a single miss, Zealots rushing with 1 wound and leaving if they’re not going to make it in 20 minutes, etc.
FS locked those old penances to the “redacted” section and turned the most annoying ones into “private”. So simply unlocking them is not a solution, and another remake is very unlikely to happen either.
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Yes I saw you ask for people to help with that on these very forums unless I’m mistaken. We’re saying it should not require that… So again… Why do you think they should remain private? Because you already have them?
Did you read the rest of my post after that? It answers this.
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It does require that, that’s how they planned it.
I am really not interested in your victimized role here.
You want those special achievements? Move out of your comfort zone.
Simple as that.
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And I’m not really interested in your ‘I’m alright jack so screw everyone else’ role here. You have the penances so you’re just annoyed that it might be less bothersome to others if the rules are reverted. Why else would you staunchly defend this? You want to make your fellow gamers needlessly uncomfortable? How nice of you.
Changing the rules wouldn’t hurt you so why not stop arguing for the sake of arguing?
Yes we know it currently requires that. That’s what we’re arguing against it. That’s the whole point of this discussion. And no they didn’t ‘plan it’. You yourself said that they changed it so it was kneejerk because of bad design.
Well by that logic they should make at least 1/4 of the new penances also private-only. Like I already said, I’ve had to do loads of stupid stuff for the non private penances that aren’t any worse than the private ones.
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Could you?
Cool retort bro. 10/10.
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Reason why I stopped to watch penances…
I don’t want to deal with that. Private penance means a penance I will never do, then it means the penance system is useless for me.
EDIT: and that’s why I consider the last patch, about penances, a total time loss. I fear that the next one (crafting) will be also a time loss… As I said, I don’t care if it is in warhammer universe or no… if I get a better game than darktide I would leave. Let’s say that Fatshark is not choosing options I like. This point is one of the choices I hate…
Especially cause discord is SO MUCH a bad tool for games. I don’t know why a lot of game developers put things on discord, but you cannot discuss, there is no real community on it etc.
However, you can find, in small channels, good guys that can share their experience with you.
But, I won’t go to discord to compensate something that does not exist in the game… and having to use discord to play was not written on the recommended settings…
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I feel like this was 100% a big reason they made them private so quickly, at the time, solo mode was on the priority list. Now it isn’t and here the penances continue to languish.
I’m just glad I had friends to help me out with them.
I still don’t understand why they don’t just remove the party size requirement for private games.
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which they will never do even though they said they would. and if they do, it won’t be any time soon. the best thing they could do right now would be to just fix the penances so that they don’t require team griefing and making it so that private game penances aren’t a thing anymore.
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