please dont 
i’m deaf and i rely on spidey sense to play the game
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You cannot if you don’t have an headset or have an hearing impairement or turn off the sounds. You can if you hear sounds. But, to see it, you would have to test the mod more than 2 minutes.
You did not prove how this is impacting you. In fact, you cannot go in the game, take one player and tell me what mods they use. Cause, these mods don’t impact you directly.
Again… I will take an analogy.
Trying to build the roof of a house with bad foundations, won’t work. This is exactly what you are trying to do.
You cannot prove that these mods are against the current policy so you have chosen to oberate this fact. you cannot prove that any mod on Nexus has an impact on your experience, so you don’t want to talk about this.
I already pointed that several mods that were problematic have been removed from Nexus. If you think that they remove mods at random, I cannot help you.
The problem is that you (and others) refuse to see evidences. That’s why Fatshark must post a clarification cause nothing will convince you… not the mods that are removed from Nexus, not the fact that developers are on modding discord, not even the fact they help modders, not even the fact they posted a mod policy and have given example of what is against the rules…
Where we are, the only thing they can do is to post a clarification. But I am sure that even with that, you would still not accept it.
But if you are really trying to be honestly discussing, I suggest you to search this forum. Several mods have been taken down from Nexus. Several threads reported here problematic mods, and several were removed few times after.
I even reported one that was modifying the game itself… As you can see this mod was removed from Nexus.
There are several examples like that. And still you argue that Fatshark did nothing and that Nexus is full of unverified mods… even after pointing the Nexus rules, you still argue that it doesn’t work like that.
If I have understood you, you know the truth and everyone else not agree with you is wrong, is cheat any mod you think it is and you make the rules on this forum and decide who can post and who cannot… I must inform you that this is Fatshark forum and that they decide the rules (for the forum and about the mods).
Yeah, you’re literally not listening to what I’m saying at this point and just straight up making crap up at this point.
Have fun with that.
That sure is weird.
So deaf that you laugh at the voice spam mods.
Really debating in good faith here guys.
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Clad finally gets mods?
You can mute a guy. You can report a guy that is abusing a mod.
I did it… and I have already said it.
This is against the rules… and even without any mod. Someone harassing you, or just by the fact they are hurting your own experience, in the game can be reported, even if he doesn’t use a single mod.
bruh deaf people can read
nah just pointing out that some people do REALLY need them, even ignoring the QoL for everyone else and the fact that sounds dont work sometimes.
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Read by listening? 
If you genuinely are, sorry, I’m a massive skeptic and have no faith in people to not BS out their butt as much as possible on the internet.
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bruh
what
most voice mods also trigger subtitles and in the case of the “for the emperor” mod post in the chat “yes” or “no”
hmmm… these mods display in blue a text line…
accessibility is important for any video game and honestly it’s something I wish FS would dedicate the time to doing themselves, I’ve been asking for a colourblind mode for years at this point and no dice
it’s simply not something we should have to rely on modders for but beggars can’t be choosers I suppose. There’s a discussion to be had if mods like Spidey Sense go too far but that doesn’t take away from the fact that accessibility is something that should always be considered important.
edit: I’d also like to make the argument that if FS did something like spidey sense themselves then there’d be little to argue about in the sense that it’d be baseline and available to all.
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I was just referring to you using the term “Listen” in multiple posts.
That’s it. Getting off topic.
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Nobody reasonable is saying that the mods shouldn’t exist in any capacity or that Fatshark shouldn’t include accessibility options.
The more recent discussion has largely been around the ability of them to let people go beyond what anyone is capable of, deaf or otherwise.
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Do you say that OP is not reasonnable?
So yes there are several users that think it… and they can express also what they think. Even if you think that they are not “reasonable”.
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Lord you’re trying so hard, I’ll humor this because it’s short.
Yep! I don’t personally think removing all mods is the solution. I have made no secret of this.
Cool. They’re welcome to it. I don’t think they’re reasonable people. What’s your point?
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I’m aware, just putting my 2 cents in because I do worry that “accessibility” efforts that end up being viewed as thinly veiled exploits, for legit reasons or not, (I don’t use spidey sense since I’m not deaf…or at least if I am I haven’t heard about it) wind up hampering genuine attempts at accessibility.
I do know a good chunk of people who use spidey sense because they deem the in-game audio to be too unreliable in terms of what sounds are prioritised and I get that but also I definitely remember clips from my VT2 days of people complaining about “silent” disablers that are actually audible in the clip. Granted this is all anecdotal so y’know, take it with a grain of salt
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you really dug through my posts for that bro?
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Ye, it’s a tight rope to walk, especially when it’s community driven. Including some variation of it in game would go a long way. (Albeit with more restrictions)
Yeah, I discussed that with a friend when we were talking about this topic and whatnot. (The reviewing showing that audio did play) I’ve had times I thought something was silent and the audio was either extremely quiet or I just straight up missed it. It would not remotely surprise me that a large portion of people who use that excuse are having far more times where they miss a cue than they’d admit to.
Nobody is perfect, when I look at things like true solos and clips of mine and whatnot I criticize myself hard.
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/hear /talk
It took under 20 seconds. You’re also still kinda dodging it
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dodging what?
In the same sense how people write “I’m glad to hear it” or “They were saying xyz” or “I see” in text exchanges, someone who’s deaf may still say they’re listening, as in, they’re paying attention.
And deaf doesn’t strictly mean the inability to hear, it can also mean they’re hearing impaired. Technically speaking I’m able to claim that I’m deaf in my left ear right now, and that’d be true (for now).
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