I’ve been penance farming lately and the more I step away from my favorite builds (primarily cloak with krak grenades and buffing team toughness regen as a support role) the more flaws I see with the class. The more I use voice of command and worse the marksmen build the more I realize the vet tree just in general sucks for the most part.
It’s not that there are no good perks far from it imo the vet has some of the best perks in the game. The two big problems is neither ability even compares to the power of cloaking and Vet keystones are completely useless as a rule.
Voice of command is kind of viable, but mark light is completely useless in every way.
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the damage buffs are not worth it and it takes a lot of points to max out its power.
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Mark light makes you pass up some of the best perks in the vet tree due to its placement.
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many of the perks you cannot make tenable due to the position are toughness regen perks meaning not only does mark light give you no toughness, but toughness regen is even harder than the other two.
As for voice of command it’s ok but it’s just not as good as cloaking. Yes, it gives full toughness, knock back and can res allies with damage boosts but you only get 1 charge whereas with cloak you get two and for revives I just cloak up and do it undisturbed making it more versatile than voice of command and basically just as effective at the same things while also being even better in other ways.
Also do not mistake this as advice to nerf cloaking I’m saying this because I want the exact opposite. I think the cloaking tree is one of the most helpful and balanced abilities in the game and I think rather than nerfing it to make the others LOOK BETTER by comparison buff the ones underperforming to the same level of usefulness. The cloak should be the bar DON’T BUFF it DON’T NERF it I think cloak is perfect as is.
In terms of making, voice of command viable I think, and easy fix is the option to spend a third point in the tree on having two stacks of it with slower regen like the cloak has but also making it give some creative buffs to allies in the radius could be cool too.
As for fixing Mark Light have it give us back all our toughness like the other two and I think it’s immediately viable again. It doesn’t even need a second stack in my opinion just make toughness regen part of the base ability buff and it’s balanced imo.
Now we get to the vet keystones which are a common complaint here on the forums. The problems are pretty simple here.
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You have to pass up some great perks just to get them because otherwise you can’t reach them in the first place.
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The benefits they provide are underwhelming and very situational in most cases in terms of usefulness and some are just ridicules to the point I swear they can’t have been play tested.
I don’t know whose idea it was to make standing still or crouch walking to build up stacks of focus a thing but never let them cook again. This is a zombie hoards shooter where you have to constantly be moving repositioning and checking you back to stay alive. I promise you almost every time you start building stacks, you’ll be lucky to get to 5 let alone the 10 needed for the penance before a swarm sneaks up behind you. The play style required to get focus stacks is basically suicide.
When it comes to tagging enemies, the buffs seem great in theory from taking those keystones but the reality of it is the buffs you get from the tagging are negligible when you could be increasing crit rates, bleed stacks and grenade abilities not to mention it makes buff support builds harder which is one of the vet classes biggest focuses.
Weapon specialist isn’t terrible but again you have to spend a lot of points to reach it and while it is a lot easier to make applicable and gain stacks than the other two once again, I think the points are better spent elsewhere. The buffs are nice, but field improve bleed stacks and toughness boosts are better and more reliable.
Please fix this I feel like this should be a massive priority and by the way while you’re at it please patch “On Overwatch.” I spent months on that penance and earned it on Heresy the way you were supposed to. Every time someone glitches for it, it’s worth less and less. The whole point of locking gear behind achievements is to give it value and make it a status symbol. That element is removed when most of the people who have it cheated. I sabotage players trying that at every turn.
Given the amount of people here who clearly are upset about my voice of command comment I’ve learned no one in this game has any clue how to play stealth support properly. You’re never going to convince me voice of command offers more benefit as a support role the only real outlier advantage is the gold bar. The knock back helps but it’s a minor buff when you’re good at melee you don’t really need it in the first place. Lastly factor in how many toughness regenerations boosting perks there are along that path of the tree and nearby and when you take born leader everyone gets 15% of all toughness you regenerate as long as they’re in cohesion. If you think stealth support sucks and is selfish you suck at stealth.
Edit’s: multiple spelling errors I kept finding after initial posting because I’m OCD but also suck at grammar and spelling at the same time. XD
