Please fix the powercreep (RANT)

Is there a way to download the raw data? Their chart sucks for year on year comparison.

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Hilarious timing as you say that cause I just did a few runs with zero talents this time


Full run videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VboLt-Xydy4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD6D67givzs

I don’t know but SteamDB also keeps track of player numbers though they might be identical

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The long periods between balance updates if at all is outpaced by ever growing broken aspects and the distance just grows more as new weapons added and now class. It is like playing catch up. Not days, weeks but months to never really “get there”.

One step forward, then more things come along to make it two steps back.

Truelevel mod and reddit poll shows it is a casual majority, people who don’t want to learn it and rather push to basics of an old school zombie game.

You think just like crafting unlocks, takes time, takes pressure. That took 2 years. Granted a rebalance of class/nodes/weapons a much more complicated affair, will that be 2 years or more as well to snag the more significant ones…

DS - How long just for that one weapon now, months. Now imagine how long for the significant rest…So much said, but so little pacing.

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This is horrifying.

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Or someone’s mad that other players are having fun and for some reason this offends/affects them.

Realistically, both explanations are true and exist at the same time.

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How entitled do you have to be to indulge in the delusion that someone playing arbites is “ruining the match completely”.

If this isn’t karen behavior i don’t know what is.

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Reminder that FS said Veterans would be receiving more next year in November 2024 and that we are now almost 9 months into 2025 with no word on anything new for Veteran

And that FS teased a potential upcoming weapon for VT2 in July 2024 and then stated 7 months later that it “won’t be coming out this year”

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Again, why can your “fun” only be achieved at the highest difficulty? Why can people who want harder challenges not have their fun, when there are 4 other difficulties? (No, I’m not including Havoc)

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while i’m guilty myself of every once and again take out the imba class and go ham, the other classes i play i make it a personal challenge to outdamage the arbi and rather see him as the “final boss” to beat :rofl:

vet often gets the short end, its disgusting with how inferior a gameplay one arby can net 150k more dmg and kills with totally braindead push forward.

meanwhile you have to pull off a literal dance through the enemies lest you get killed quickly.

then again if it works it shows I’m on the right path :smiley:

“build confirmed”

if by fun you mean “crutching” ones way into difficulties he otherwise would get downed every 2 meters… fk that.

if you play badly it should reflect in your output and not get deflected by artificial numbers.

it’s pitiful at best and agitating for those putting in real effort at worst.

then again, arby-mains are A.S.S made manifest :joy:

this whole “fun” argument has me instantly

yes fatshark did, with difficulties below auric maelstrom

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never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups :rofl:

40k times this.

so far darktide was filling that dopamine void pvp games left when i “retired”

and while after 4 hours sleep leaving the hospital again, having had the last IV at 3a.m, thinking about how the get fit fast for playing again is a testament to the games quality.

a quality that is based on feasible challenges, not lollygagging and strolling through the maps.

you forgot “morticias trials” :joy: can’t see the appeal of the “schiessbude” but it has its fans.

so different “format” i’d count as occupation therapy :smiley:

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“Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.”

Tyranny of the majority, baby.

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Workers and peasants. Not that it did them any good last time they tried it.

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Oh, SOMEBODY didn’t take that very well~ :winking_face_with_tongue:

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The tyranny of the Chaos casuals, here to ruin this beacon of the Emperor and of the Omnissiah. Truly dark times, it’s the end of days.

Has this turned into a dramatic opera practice thread? Everything is ruined and burning?

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I don’t know about your description of it, but Darktide’s definitely not in an acceptable state of affairs when it needs to spawn so many Enemies that it breaks the Audio in order to counter powercreep. This has been the case for almost two years and Fatshark’s done very little to mitigate it thus far. Heck, even THAT metric isn’t enough to counter powercreep anymore.

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Sure, those are verifiable issues but some here are taking the melodrama to the next level. Makes it harder to take it seriously.

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On the other hand, some people are being ridiculously dismissive of the complaints about these issues.

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Let’s say for whatever reason fatshark decides to actually listen to this poll and buff everything, how do you even balance the enemies around this?

Auric is already congalines full of elites and specials and Havoc is clown cars, you kill 1 crusher 4 more take its place.

Am I going to be fighting 100 of every elite each time a horde spawns or am I just going to have 5 out of 5 classes steamroll everything compared to only 2/5 right now.

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The most obvious, I think we all think, and laziest in all games is pump HP. Which creates a whole new slew of problems for “underperforming” weapons and even breakpoints of current usable and meta ones. They may have already been testing those waters with rotten armor and pus-hardened before it.

It’s almost like people that do math for their video games thought about this already. Also almost like you don’t have to do math for your video games to realize the most likely way this would go.

That is, assuming anything happens to enemies after said player buffs and they don’t actually agree with the emerging sentiment of making this a walking sim even for havoc

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