I really like to do that, thanks for this post, i like stuff like that
Well i see countless people wich run around with shop cosmetics. I guess many of them are fans of tide games and or Fatshark. But ofc there are many wich simply like to look cool. I have no clue about the games you mentioned, but as i said so often befor, i like the loot system in the game and i cant imagine that im the only one, that would be strange kinda xD
Thats how it looks when you paly with friends yes. As i said when you play with randoms only, i have 99% bad expierence sadly :-/
Yeah they will try and they will also try to make others responsible for a fail. Because it cant be them if they have god rolled itmes right ? xD
I have to say that this is exactly what i like, becasue it forces you to play with weaker stuff sometimes or with stuff you think is not worthy at all, but turns out it is not that bad as you thought. If you played a lot of games, you know that is not a uncommon thing in games. Finding out cool stuff by experementing with things.
Yeah ofc it is about all that in first place for me persoanlly. But there is also a psychological aspect and i have mentioned it already. If you make it so that a plyer can get the best possible rolled weapon right away, it also makes alot of player think, they are the best now. Not to mention that i see a balance issue here. Sure as i said 80% comes from player skill. But when all skilled players now run around with also godrolled itmes, well i think i dont need to finish that âŚ
Yeah i think there are many V2 veterans wich are so used to run up to the enemys with their meele weapons. I think its pretty hard for some of them to adapt to the new system after 2-3k hours in V2. But there are also a lot of new players, wich are not used to any of these games or systems. They maybe played trash like Outriders befor or similar stuff. I also have the impression, there are a lot of serious sam players around xD
Well i dont see this loot system as a prevention system for casualization ofc. I see it in frist place as what it is, a loot system. But what im really afraid of are all the little things that in sum end up to make this game a joke at the end. Its starts with making specials more predicable, goes to making the bolter easier useable and removing ranged enemys to god rolled itmes in the first wekk of playtime. Maybe you can undersand my fear a bit better now.
Thank you, was really fun to think about all of this that way
Well you can attack through walls with your meele weapon. I killed countless enemies that way, they had not the slightest chance against it. Im pretty sure that every single player has done that at some point, wich makes us all kinda cheaters
I disagree with that, because Darktide needs far more and better situation awareness and that is the main skill needed in such games. In V2 you deal 99% with meele enemys, in Darktide you deal with meele/ranged, lets say 50/50 for simplyfication. To keep it simple, i say that doubles your situation awareness requirement or skill requirements.
I can see in every single match that people still underrestimate ranged enemys. Thats not the fault of ranged enemys being to strong, thats players wich try to run through walls headlong. Either they learn to adapt or they suffer and i would prefer the first one. Im also sure that they will learn it at some point. But i have to admit, i thought they would learn it faster xD
I apologize for my rough and arrogant tone sometimes. I think i do this often because im afraid i wont be heard otherwise. That is ofc nonsense and its the fear of a child. Its true im a child inside and sometimes this child breaks out. The reason why this is happening here with Darktide is, im afraid that my dream game gets destroyed. Im a hardcore gamer and i play 24/7 and right now i play Darktide only.
I love it, its not perfect and its surely not finished yet. But i love the gameplay loop and the combat is out fuâŚing standing. Befor i started to play Darktide i was jumping back and forth between my favorite games, only to realise that none of them can give me true satisfaction anymore. This has finally changed with Darktide, after a few years. I finally have a game thats fun again, in a setting i really love.
Now people make a lot of requests and with some of them im afraid my dream game gets destroyed. But the truth is ofc, this is not my game, if at all its our game. Its actually Fatsharks game, but i like to say its our game, that sounds better i think. So yeah, Fatshark will hopefully make decisions based on what the majority think is right.
But be not surprised if i rage a bit now and then about some changes or requests. I hope you guys have an understanding, in reality im a real nice and helpful guy. Im just driven by my fears sometimes and overreact when its happening. That does not mean what i said was not true. I really like the system as it is. But if the majority really is no fan of it, it needs to be changed.
But i beg all of you, to think very carefully befor making any requests. Please make sure they are reasonable and dont make the game to easy or to lame. Also please keep in mind that some people really like to play around with a lot of diffrent gear stats and stuff, thats a way for them of getting fun out of this game, besdies the challenging combat on higher diffs.
Also befor making requests to make enemys easier. Please try to adapt to the difficult and learn how fun it can be to master certain difficultys. Its very satisfying to master it and improve your own gameplay skills and situation awareness.
I hope Fatshark finds a golden path for all of this, so everyone can be happy at the end
I do understand your fear off loosing what you see as the good parts off the game. At least as i see it i donât want the gamplay loop to change, but the way we get items, that is the main issue. As I have stated earlier we have zero agency in getting any tyoe off items, it is 100% random which feels nice when you get something you want. But that happiness in short lived, like buying a new toy. Letâs say there was an other way off getting items, like a progression system that rewarded your gamplay. A system where you worked towards getting a spesific item would give you motivation to play and enjoy it even more when you get what you wanted.
Personally i donât like grinding, but it is fine if there is not to much off it and the gameplay is awsome. Dakrtide has awsome gamplay, but there is something worse than a grind heavy game bulit into the lootsystem, we canât even grind for it⌠It is not even an option. That is the problem right. there. No choise, only luck.
I would actually rather have them remove the loot system and just giving the player whatever weapons they wanted, or preferabely just play 200 hours and unlock everything in that time. That is because the reason i play Darktide has nothing to do with the loot, it is all about trying different weapons and builds and utelise said weapons in any situations. But i am ârobbedâ off that oppertunity because off a 100% random lootsystem. I donât care if a gun or melee weapon is meta, i care about how fun it is to use and finding niches for it.
I keep seeing people say âItâs not VT3â or this threadâs title, what is that even supposed to mean? For all intents and purposes, it is VT3 in space, with great combat but smooth brain ancillary systems.
+1 for the current equipment system is awful. âGod rolledâ items arenât really achievements in the tide games, theyâre just the end of the gear progression. In the same way that leveling up correlates to gameplay, simply playing the game should earn the player better equipment. I was never unhappy that Iâd gotten a good orange or red in VT2 too early, artificially increasing the exact same gear grind we had in VT2 out to hundreds of hours without making the top gear anymore compelling makes it feel unrewarding and insane. Why would I want to spend another 100 hours looking for the same weapon Iâm using now, that does 2 more damage on each attack?
Youâre entitled to your opinion and Iâm entitled to mine. For me the âDiablo-styleâ gear hunt is way less enjoyable. IMO keep that within ARPG/MMO/Mobile/Gacha games. Itâs not why I play first person shooters, PvE or PvP.
If like 90% of people feel the same way I do, one has to wonder if itâs worth [de]evolving for the other 10%.
Then what the F are you arguing for or against? I am now completely lost.
No, nobody wants to touch the Core Gameplay.
Yes, the Missions will stay as they are even when the Mickey Mouse Casuals will be able to grind their way towards their perfect Loadout by actually playing the Game and not logging in every 1h.
I am simply lost at this point. What is Your argument? What does ANYTHING you posted now have to do with RNG Systems being utter Garbage and not respecting the Playerâs Time in the slightest?
I think the RNG shop is miles better than the RNG loot boxes, but the game should not even be out yet since itâs not finished. Crafting needs to be there so that we can judge the game as a whole.
⌠some black numbers were needed for 2022 no doubt.
And yeah, weâve started playing a bit more on higher difficulties now and by necessity the game plays more like a shooter. Weâll see⌠there are so many things to like about this game and the guns handle very well for the most part, but I miss the responsive melee of VT2.
This is certainly the most cope take I have seen on here in a while. Donât you like, get loot drops from killing enemies in Diablo or something? Am I missing something or are you just delusional?
Edit: I have read this fellowâs replies and I feel like this is an elaborate troll. Or perhaps people are unfairly piling on a 13 year old.
I believe it. Itâs definitely kinda funny how theyâre successfully getting a rise out of people by pretending thereâs nothing wrong with the game. With a game with less issues you would probably troll by pretending to hate it, no?
In any case, Iâm a firm believer that pretending to be a moron for long enough makes you an actual moron, so good luck to them.
