I was hoping the itemization update would give us what we had IN VERMINTIDE 2 so we could finally start working on perfect arsenals, but nope still the dumb 80% limit persists. Why? Why are you hellbent on random artificial limits when we have already seen how good it works in Vermintide?
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All this random s**t is just for the online number because of DT’s lack of gameplay.
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Red weapons were a band aid fix and sucked
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They’re coming either way. Question is only what the implementation will be.
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I remember what you showed me, still don’t think it’s really what they are planning on doing. Or at least not in the same system
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you can criticize many things in darktide, but gameplay is none of em.
gameplay loop is bar none and i don´t want for more to keep on sinking yet another 1000 hours into.
would i like more enemies and weapons, sure, does it LACK those right now ? not in my opinion.
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none of red weapons would make any real difference at all. it’s just playing with your mind, bc you can see the not maxed stats.
noone could/would actually see when those few %s make huge impact on anything when fighting, or maybe very rare instances reaching breaking points sooner. nothing game changer really. if you or the team cannot complete the mission, it’s fair to say it isn’t bc of those 1-2 points extra dmg or some other stat. if you couldn’t do it in vt2 with some decent orange weapons, then neither with red ones.
I honestly like more the “can’t be a perfect weapon in every way” philosphy.
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What are you talking about? Building RED weapon arsenals was AWESOME. Whats the end game content now? Forever searching for that 5% increase?
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The psychological aspect of having all read arsenal is a billion times more rewarding than forever RNG. Its not about the slight difference in performance its about knowing it cant get any better statwise and now i can simply experiment with all the traits and blessings on my perfect red.
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yeah it sucks so bad having red weapons where you can reroll them into whatever you want and just play the freaking game, L take
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Are we talking about just maxed out stat rolls or weapons with unique perks?
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Max stats.
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What’s there to work on? You get a perfect weapon, boom, done. One could argue the current system allows you to actually work on it.
The lack of meaningful progress after getting every red weapon in Vermintide is one of the reasons Darktide has the RNG grind. So the engagement would go up. Granted, they screwed up majorly on that front, but it doesn’t mean it wouldn’t have worked, had the system was better implemented.
I like the idea of reds, but not for all bars maxed out. Just he modifiers past 80% and into the 100% zone.
600 weapons with an extra 50 mod points.
But then it effects the difficulty curve.
The main desire is those fancy weapon skins you get with reds.
They would be cool if you had no max bars like with other weapons but you had to pick and choose where to put your limited points. But lowering them to increase others would be so fun for me to tweak things for optimal stats.
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80% is our 100%, we’re reject and not getting the good stuff. all this whining over a little number in a game.
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The extra 20% is just space for future DLC/expansion (red weapons) but there’s no point implementing a higher tier of weapons until there is a higher tier of difficulty to use them on.
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We have 4 classes, each class has over 10 weapons to work on to get the red one. And at least there is an actual goal to work towards and not just pointless RNG shite. My Vet is my most played archetype but i literally dont care about the loot anymore. No weapon is perfect so it doesnt matter because the next RNG drop might make it obsolete.
And engagement should go up due to new content and not souless RNG hamster wheel.
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We’re probably going to get them. There’s a reason that post was called “Itemization Pt. 1” and not just “Itemization”.
Isn’t it just “Q&A part 1” ?
Also do people forget what red did ? They didn’t give more power than orange or even grey did. Just maxed the traits (dmg against Skaven/Chaos…)
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I do get the feeling we aren’t getting red weapons. Its verty antithetical to the character of the new system they are cooking up.