That is your opinion that you are masquerading to be fact. You believe that any system that makes you pay for the ability to unlock achievements is called a battle pass. I believe that the “battle pass” is not the only possible answer, even if I personally, some random gamer, cannot come up with a perfect alternative for you. That is not my expertise, that doesn’t mean it can’t exist.
As I keep saying, if Fatshark just put the black recolor in the shop, I would be disappointed because it would feel hollow, lazy, and boring. It loses an opportunity to earn it in a more fun and memorable way. However, even if it was just in the shop, I would prefer that over it not being in the game at all.
Why don’t we just wrap this up and agree to disagree on the monetization aspect of the black recolor?
you mistake it being a matter of alternatives when it’s a matter of definitions. any system that lets you pay to allow one the privilege of grinding for or otherwise unlocking rewards is a battle pass
i don’t agree to disagree, no. you’re suggesting a battle pass and i don’t want one. unless the point of disagreement is that you want a battle pass and i don’t, that’s fine, i just posted to disagree in the first place, it was you who started bending definitions so you could somehow be right
But black Krieg doesn’t exist. As much as the store sucks at least they stick to making regiments accurate when they can. I don’t wanna indulge the larp of recoloring everything like a deranged kid making a custom army, I like the accuracy. Now for the accuracy of actually looking good, well…we have Ogryn (not accurate but at least he wears the kark out of that jacket).
Nope, you have your own personal definition of a battle pass and can’t accept that it isn’t fact just because you say it is. It’s a broad oversimplification that captures part of what a battle pass is, but misses key parts of it that every single person thinks of when they think of a battle pass because a battle pass is a specific kind of monetization. It typically has tiered or semi-linear progression, FOMO time-limited/seasonal, free+premium tracks, and a big grind but with the option to pay to accelerate/skip it. You like paying to skip playing the game, I don’t. I don’t want to pay for something and receive the reward immediately. I don’t want a linear track, or anything FOMO. I’m not asking for a long grind, but specific penance challenges or something else that isn’t a battle pass. Now here’s where some big scary nuance comes in that you won’t be able to grasp, if I haven’t lost you already with a very simple understanding of what a battle pass actually is. While I’m not advocating for a battle pass, I don’t care if we have one or not as much as you do. That doesn’t mean I want one. Still, it is true that paying for the privilege to unlock rewards includes a lot of different monetization methods beyond just strictly battle passes, even though you don’t seem to understand that.
A battle pass is not a catch-all term for any possible way to pay to earn something, that is ridiculous.
there’s content xpacs, but fatshark already said they wouldn’t do those. what’s the secret monetization technique that you insist exists but you can’t name?
like i wonder if the problem is that we’re misunderstanding eachother? i think that there is no alternate way to implement a monetized earnable cosmetic but battle passes, unless you were to start going into the territory of DLC that include actual gameplay content like a new class or an xpac.
so regardless of whether you claim you want a battle pass or not, to me the idea of an “earnable krieg cosmetic” has the following issue:
if it’s paid and earnable, it’s a battle pass
if it’s paid and not earnable, it’s just cosmetics as they’ve been done
if it’s earnable and not paid, fatshark won’t do it because they’re not making krieg sets free
the alternatives to a battlepass would be a content DLC with maps and associated achievements, but they said they wouldn’t do this. The other thing would be a content DLC with a class and associated cosmetics but i’m not seeing the design space for a krieg class existing
I don’t understand why we can’t just agree to disagree on what our definition of a battle pass is. I tried, and you’re acting as if I need to just accept it as a fact that your incredibly vague catch-all definition is just simply a reality. A battle pass is not a catch-all term for any way to earn something in game but paying first. If it’s paid and earnable, no, that doesn’t automatically make it a battle-pass.
I agree that there isn’t a need for a Krieg class, and that Fatshark won’t do an expansion. Having new paid penances tied to a map we already have would definitely not be an expansion, but it also definitely would not be a battle pass either. That’s my best solution for you. A very simple and easy thing to implement based on 3 things that already exist in the game. A map that’s already done, the penance system that’s already done, and a black recolor of a set that is already done, and recolors are easy.
Do you really think that just because I personally can’t come up with a bunch of different ways to monetize this, something that was never important to me to begin with, then clearly it must not exist? It can only exist if you and I can think of it? Between just you and I, we alone contain all the knowledge and creativity necessary to come up with every possible alternative? I think my paid penance system is good enough, you think it’s a battle pass I guess, even though it very clearly is not. If you don’t want it, that’s fine, I won’t convince you. The specific way to monetize it was never important to me anyway. If you think my one alternative of paid penances is a battle pass, that is your opinion, and we can just disagree on that. There isn’t much more to say without being stuck in a loop forever. Is that what you want?
because it’s not a matter of opinion? lol. words mean something
yeah it doesn’t exist. it’s not because you can’t name any example of it though, you got the reasoning the wrong way around. it’s because it doesn’t exist that you can’t name any example of it. i never expected you to defy reality, only to… accept you might not be correct. i know this is one and the same thing for some people though
You’re literally just projecting here. You have decided that your vague catch-all term of a battle pass is fact and you refuse to accept you might not correct. Also, if you think I can’t come up with an example, then you didn’t read what I said. Paid penances are not a battle pass, and they’re not an expansion. A battle pass is not just anything that is earnable but monetized, that is ridiculous.
not at all, you could convince me easily that i’m not correct if you had an argument against. such as, for example, one such monetization method that is supposed to exist.
paid penances ARE a battle pass, even if you don’t call it that. there is no fungible difference between the two concepts, just semantics. it’s like calling a battle pass a “paid grind track” and then pretending it’s not a battle pass.
