The Krieg sets would be more compelling to collect if we could tie it to something memorable in the game. I would be more interested in collecting the other colors too at that point, even if I had to spend Aquilas for the others. Completing penances within No Man’s Land to earn Krieg sets would just be too perfect of an idea to pass up, in my opinion. This would add something fun to the game and create goodwill with players.
The reward for these penances should be a black recolor of the Krieg sets. When I saw the cover art for the Krieg sets, it looks like they’re black, but then that black tint doesn’t actually exist in-game. In the Commodore’s Vestures, there is a Krieg Gas Mask Bundle which contains a Gas Mask (Marked by Service) that looks black in the square preview/icon but silver on the operative’s face. I also found a “Shadow Sanctum” Crusader Garb lower body cosmetic that looks very similar to the Krieg lower body except in black (and different boots). So with those two things, you could almost have the black Krieg set like in the splash art, but there is no Krieg Greatcoat (Marked by Service)/Black recolor, so it doesn’t quite work.
it’s not that i dont think that would be cool, but we’re getting 500 aquilas once a year. i dont think they’d ever give out a full cosmetic set for anything
it would be blatantly unfair to the people who bought to give away any set, there will inevitably be people who already had one or several of any theme. why would they get less? Aquilas is the prefered route so everyone gets something.
You would like them to give away for free their most popular, most profitable, set that pays for everything else in the game? I can see why that would appeal.
Going to be interesting to see the business case you come up with.
I guess they never should’ve added the commissary then? What if people bought cosmetics just because there weren’t any good in-game ones, and now regret their purchase after the addition of the commissary, which had a bunch of re-colors? Ridiculous. That is no reason not to add something cool.
I just want the black recolor that the filter in the cover art made it look like and I want to earn it in No Man’s Land. I’m sure they can find a way to monetize it somehow if they really want to. I don’t care. I am suggesting a fun addition to the game. It is not my job to decide which is the best way to corrupt the fun with profit as all game developers must do when publishers demand it of them.
I’m sure you’ll criticize any idea if I mention anything specific, but a battle pass proves you can have monetization that is still earned. I don’t want a battle pass in this game. I want to complete specific penance challenges that reward armor. Guess what, that system already exists in the game now. It would be memorable and fun to earn Krieg armor in No Man’s Land. That is the whole point of playing a game, memorable and fun. Right? I’m sure there’s some way somehow to monetize my idea.
a battle pass is the only way they could do something like that though, i’m pretty sure
i don’t think anyone disagrees with you on principle that free cosmetics earned in fun ways would make the game better, but people know how to realistically temper their expectations. fatshark isn’t going to give out the krieg set, presumably their best seller, for free. just no chance of that happening. and outside of a battle pass i don’t see how an “earnable cosmetic thats still monetized” would be made. and people don’t want battle passes either, if they’re gonna buy they just want to get the cosmetics. which circles us right back around the current implementation: you want it you buy it
I didn’t say it needs to be free. I didn’t say it has to be a battle pass. I don’t care how, it is done. I just want to earn the black Krieg recolor in No Man’s Land.
A counter-proposal could be a singular purchase one-time “event” pass rather than a traditionally structured/regular battle pass that refreshes on a seasonal or monthly basis. Or something else which isn’t called a “pass” at all, whatever.
Again, I don’t care about the specifics of the monetization. I’m not advocating for a battle pass to be added, I’m advocating for this idea to be added by whatever means necessary.
I want to use the existing Penance System that currently already functions as a way to distribute cosmetics within the No Man’s Land map to earn a recolor of an already finished armor set. It really is not that crazy of an idea.
the commissary is basically nothing but at least the recolors there cost only pointless in game money you should always be hovering near cap at by 500 hours. you’re still not telling me how giving out specifically this outfit is fair to the people who bought it. just ask for aquilas and put it towards that.
so you’re fine with paying for a battle pass so long as it’s not seasonal and it’s not called a pass?
that’s certainly an opinion
to add my own though, i really don’t want a battle pass regardless of how it’s dressed up. if they’re going to add premium content and i want it, i want to just buy it to have it
Really, is it certainly an opinion, or just your misunderstanding of one?
I said something else that isn’t called a pass at all. Y’know, like, not a battle pass. You’re completely missing my point which is that I don’t care how it is monetized so much as that I just want to earn the black Krieg recolor in No Man’s Land.
I can buy aquilas, that isn’t the issue. Sure, tell me exactly how I can put those aquilas towards a recolor that doesn’t exist then.
“The grey Krieg outfit (the Death Korps of Krieg set) was the first to release in Darktide. It debuted in late 2023. The lighter blue-grey (143rd Krieg) variants were released over a year later as part of the December 2024 Grim Protocols update.”
Was it unfair to the people that originally bought the grey outfit for them to now add the lighter blue-grey outfit later? That makes no sense. **I never said the black recolor has to be free.
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Cosmetics mean something more when there was something memorable in the game attached to acquiring them rather than just swiping your card. If I have to swipe my card and then earn it then that is still better. Do you have an issue repeating a mission you’ve already completed? I have a feeling you have repeated at least one of these missions more than once by now right? Probably an understatement? Do you not see the connection between the Krieg set and No Man’s Land? Do you not see how it could be a fun challenge to earn the cosmetic in that mission?
This is adding fun content with a cool reward and very minimal dev effort, because it uses all existing things, that is the point. You’re just over-complicating it.
In an ideal world, I wouldn’t have any of the cosmetics cost aquilas, it would just be penances. We don’t live in that world. This is the next best thing.
Brother. You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. I said I’m not advocating for a battle pass, but I don’t care how it’s monetized. That means I’m not pushing and suggesting that we should specifically have a battle pass. I’m not suggesting a battle pass specifically is the solution. I’ve said many times now that I don’t care what the monetization solution is.
Battle Pass was one example. Just because I can’t come up with a bunch of different examples doesn’t negate my point. It is not my job to figure out how to monetize it. I do not work for Fatshark. Do you understand?
Do you consider expansions to be battle passes? If I buy Tiny Tina’s Wonderland for Borderlands to get some unique reward from the expansion, but I have to complete something in-game within the expansion to earn that reward, I’ve now paid money to access this content and given the ability to earn the cosmetic. Did I just purchase a battle pass? No. Am I suggesting that we add this exact same type of thing from Borderlands in Darktide? Also no. Becuase I don’t karking care how the monetization aspect is implemented.
You can complain that the two examples I can think of off the top of my head aren’t perfect all day but you’re completely missing my point. It is not my job to come up with the perfect way to monetize this.
I want Fatshark to add the black recolor of the Krieg set.
I would like to earn them through penances in No Man’s Land.
That’s it. That’s my entire point right there. It doesn’t get any more complicated than that.
Free would obviously be ideal. However, I am not demanding free. I am also not demanding a battle pass. I am also not demanding an expansion like in Borderlands either. If they want to monetize it, then they can come up with how they want to monetize it.
you are effectively suggesting a battle pass though because that’s the only way this could be implemented. it’s a nice thought that you don’t want to suggest a battlepass but it’s what this suggestion is, realistically
I disagree, I don’t think a battle pass is the only method of monetized earnable cosmetics, and that doesn’t become the case just because someone that doesn’t work in this industry can’t immediately think of the best method.
I gave another example, not because I think that is the best method, but to demonstrate that battle passes are not the only way. So are you saying that expansions are battle passes? Or is there more than one way to have monetized earnable cosmetics?
adding earnable cosmetics that are monetized is just a battlepass. that’s a hard definition thing. people don’t like this business model for good reason, if i’m paying for cosmetics just give em to me.
adding an expansion that actually comes with new content is not the same thing. if they actually added a krieg themed expansion that would let you earn cosmetics and has different maps or a new class or something it’s no longer the same concept you’re describing. you’re describing a battle pass.
as for the actual feasibility of an expansion, they said they would not ever monetize anything but cosmetics and classes, so that sort of narrows it down to either a battle pass or a premium cosmetic, or a krieg themed class which has other issues conceptually
btw, i’m not telling you it’s your job to come up with anything. i’m just telling you why people are shooting the idea down. it’s not realistic, the only realistic implentation is a battle pass and that’s not a good thing to add to a video game.
