Cosmetics are the worst I've seen in a long time

yes the cosmetics are really bad, good thing cosmetics are literally the least important thing in a game

God forbid you have to actually play the game to get rewarded for time invested.

There’s expectations associated with a game based on whether it’s free or full-price. Personally, I expect any and all basic recolours (ie, no changes to the item model) to be worth half an hour or one mission per piece, at most, in a game I’ve paid full price for.

Fancy cosmetics that use a custom model or animations or have other visual or sound effects? Sure. Those can take longer to get or cost real money. But basic recolours? Nah.

This doesn’t really affect me personally, since I’m one of those people that’ll probably end up with more currency than I know what to do with, but I do think aggressive monetisation and trying to extend engagement through grinding for trinkets is an unhealthy standard in gaming and is usually disrespectful towards players.

Because that’s how games have worked since difficulty options became a thing?
The higher difficulties rewarded better item drops, or more EXP, or more money.

You’re literally complaining that you can’t make as much money on easy as someone playing on hard?
That’s just entitled as heck.

I feel like V2 drip fed cosmetics enough to make the exorbitant premium cosmetic prices feel unfair. However the volume of whats already in game complemented with hopefully a few free cosmetic packs over time should be enough to take the sting out of premium prices for players that feel compelled enough to want them.

I see I must also complain about the block feature then, as it seems not to have worked on you, owever with your evident desire to now contribute, I shall humour you. One last time. (this is a joke to suggest i am contray and simply complaining as you suggest for the hell of it)

Corperations are not people, and therefore not homonyms, I could have said “is fatshark” everytime, but that is rather clunkly and I think the post was long enough.

The last line was intentionally comical, it’s called undercutting gravtas, and prevents the post from being too dark, or ill humoured, however I’ll signpost my jokes for you) thenseforth

I didnt nessacerily accuse them of anything, I used a retorical method to contrast the two as a form of similie, asking them to draw a through line between how much they consider their workers time and ours, I did say it raises questions, which it would if the comparison is equivelant.

I suggest you work on your empathy, empathy only counts to those we owe nothing, even more with those we dispise, and the need to reassure yourself and me, by stating it indicates an unsurity, you call it nonesance, your mind already made up, contriuting no rebuttals nor counterances.

Darktide is presently that vehicle, it is not an ice breaker no, but it is following their path, and I do not think three drivers to an in game cashshop is unacceptable, cosmetic paid and free should be of equivlent value, one in time, and in money, ideally, I understand there must be a prefferance for cash, but three penalties, this is too much.

No, I dont have music in my head, I have it in my ears, it called., I am so told, an mp3 player, (JOKE) I am rather a rediclous and excentric figure, bombastic and blustering, that is my style, most find it engadging, though the nuances of it’s parody have apprently been lost on you.

It is not plentyful for me, the bounties of the game locked to me as they are any new player, and a good first impression it is not. I am happy to spend real money, if the game deserves it, but I care for those who cannot do so, I have a care for, and their experiance is not only less, but also constrained by three mechanics designed to shove them into the cash shop, which they might ill afford. The shop is RNG with 96 items, making getting an item in the colour you want a distant dream.

I am hardly self absorbed, if they sell the “free” items with dyes, I won’t be affected in the slightest, I dump £500 on godamn models a month for christsake, if you can’t comprehend me, well I’m sorry people in our society have such limited reading comperhention, and the brain damnage inflicted on my good self by my farther makes it difficult, I suggest you take it up with him and your english teacher. (This is again a joke since I must sign post them for you, although my semi functional brain is not)

Yes, I accuse them of the priniple of rackerteering in order to highlight alternative takes on the pratice, you used a clown emoji, if we are to take that litterally, are you clown or are you signinalling concerning interest in children, in which case I can recomend my father to you as a kindred spirit (This is again a joke, it’s funny because its true, and it takes your point to a logical endpoint where jokes dont exist, I am not seriously inferancing you have any criminal interests)

However you replied to tone, which is against fourm guideline, had cared to read them.

If you would like to seriously and refpectfully engage, I will forgive your frankly hurtful and ill humoured comments.

to be fair vermintide didn’t but that said vermintide was the only WHFB game that wasnt on mobile.

not to me. not to allot of people, I respect you dont care and as an fps, I can understand, but as a painter, I care, allot.

I’d like to thank you for contributing without being toxic, because apprently that wasnt a given.

The prices are a little insulting. I mean sure they are cosmetics but 165,000 for a crappy looking face mask thats almost identical to the penance one? forget about it

Thankfully they are all so crap I don’t want any of them, otherwise I would be even more annoyed by it

Godforbid we should have nother job (other than darktide), kids, hobbies, friends, and want to look nice in a game.

if that had been true, i’d have kept my mouth shut :wink:

I admit it is a daunting precedent, but if I put in the same effort, its entitled to expect more for the same effort, it’s just perspective to call it entitled or not.

Conservatives say its entitled to get a share of someones earings when its allot, Liberials says its entitled to want to keep it, entitled is a useless thing to say and has no real bearing on the debate.

I am suggesting difficulty and challange is not something to be rewarded, and that alternative methods could be utilised, its a tanget, but an interesting one.

By your logic, you tore your own argument apart.
They, playing on a HARDER DIFFICULTY are putting in MORE effort than you. Not ‘the same’.
Thus; they get bigger rewards, because a harder difficulty requires more effort, and more teamwork.

But you are basically saying ‘I work as hard (Source: Trust me), so I should get what they get.’

Politics have no need to be here.

Or, you could accept that people playing a Harder difficulty get better rewards, instead of expecting the devs to overhaul the entire system just to make you happy.
Just a thought.

His reaction is the right one though. If you don’t call out crap like this it’ll just get worse and worse. Classic slippery slope.

Oh and you forget the actual alternative: Allow players to actually earn cosmetics through gameplay challenges. I’d much rather have cosmetics tied to penances than mindlessly grind for 6 hours to buy one pair of lazily recolored pants.

they’re not putting more effort, I have a disability. It takes me contining effort not the be distracted by something else. The game doesnt account for that, and it could therefore as effort is the matrix selected, be submitted I should be equally compensated.

Its not about the polotics its about entitled being a useless and unproductive word that doesnt advance the conversation.

I’m not asking them to overhaul it, I’m suggesting it’s a bad system and we should stop using it., as it incentivises bad players to piggyback good players which isnt apporite in a co op game.

Pennances are currently a hot mess tho, they require you to handicap other players, like cosmetic progression currently does, like when I do killshot torso, I’m basically going to be on the intial landing pad all game, or I would if I didnt know the disconnect cheat.

I ground for hours for cosmetics in tomb raider legend, because it was fun, playing the same few missions over and over to get something which is effectively time limited isnt.

Thread’s been going for five hours are you close to getting your cosmetics?

Cosmetics are fine.

Ok?
So you expect the devs to change up the entire game to cater to you?

I have a disability, too. I’m slow. No joke; I am slower than your average person, when it comes to thinking and reacting. I’ve made peace with it.
I can’t play RTS games because I’m a sitting duck compared to my friends or pub players.
I also can’t remember all the hotkeys. A bad short-term memory (Preamature baby) mixed with 6 years of abuse.

I don’t expect the developers to overhaul Starcraft or Warcraft or whatever new RTS games are out just to cater to my inability to think as fast as everyone else.
I don’t demand more prizes because I’m disabled.

Such a horrid mindset to have. ‘I’m disabled, so give me more’.
It’s a game, not something required to live or stay warm in the winter or cool in the summer.

The system is not bad. Your attitude is.