Gets called out repeatedly for factually inaccurate statements and completely ignoring every argument he “responds” to.
—> “Everyone else is a baby with hurt feelings which is why I’m throwing a tantrum and leaving”
Are you the most stereotypical completely lacking self awareness boomer imaginable or is this some strange kind of performance art? If the latter, well played, if the former, goodbye you won’t be missed in this thread.
Lol dude I guarantee to you that I am not saying that convoc is overtuned because I struggle with legend. Same with a whole heap of people here, who are also cata or cata+ players I recognise the names of.
If you’re just going to ignore what people are saying, repeat the same arguments even after they’re proven wrong and then just claim everyone who disagrees is bad at the game why even post?
It really does sound like you should take some time off the forums, it might be good for your health
Guys come on. He’s a footknight. He’ll charge at anything no matter how stacked the odds are.
He’s a bloody battering ram, that’s what he is!
Me dicking around with my Cata FoW border won’t change how relevant my dam argument is. You buddy are literally ignoring any relevant critique against your arguments, factual or not and basically stating your subjective opinions as some kind of facts.
Finally pulling out the I’m literally the best player ever to play this game plz listen when nothing else works.
At any rate your stance is pretty clear already.
kinda cringe bro
I hope you get the help you need <3
You can still cheese the Righteous Stand finale if you really want to, but honestly you need to be a pretty poor player to struggle with that event to begin with, even in Cataclysm. In any case, the area behind Sigmar’s right shoulder allows you to spawn-kill almost all the specials and also control the direction from where most enemies are coming. And in the event that you are playing Cataclysm, there is so much room to kite and elevation to abuse that it’s simply not a problem. You need to find a team of absolute potatoes to struggle with that ending.
So this compounds the fact that Conv is overtuned as you go from the soft ending at Righteous Stand to the pummelling you get in Convocation.
New players must wonder WTF is going on after a fairly nice runthrough the level to get to the finale.
IF we’re talking about the progression of the missions then Convocation should be a bit harder than Righteous and a bit easier than Hunger in the Dark. This’ll me a massive nerf to the ending of Convocation though.,
Actually I’d say it’s the complete other way around. Most finales are severely undertunned and feel thrown there just to extend the run’s duration by a few minutes. Convocation has a few technical issues that pretty much everyone here agree need looking into, but all in all I’d say it’s what a proper end event for what Legend/Cata should be.
That’s also a valid argument around end events. I suppose I could completely agree with you if the conv ending wasn’t so rng as demonstrated by the videos herein. Consistently tough but doable is a very tight sweet spot to hit with any end event.
Esp. If you consider “for whom”.
Should it be tough but doable for:
Because personal skill is obviously a major factor in perceived difficulty.
I for one think that you should have legend full books on farm after about 100-150hrs after you can farm champion. This is of course also dependent on personal skill but if the average player needs more than double the time of many single player RPGs to get to a stage where they can comfortably clear the item farming difficulty, that’s too much IMHO. And these 150hrs is not time played total but after farming champion. So add 100-200 hrs.
Full book CoD is appropriate?
If you can’t handle it with books, get comfortable without them first and gradually add them in. The same applies for any map and difficulty level.
@Propaslamya You don’t have to quote me in 3 separate messages. One would have sufficed.
Regular cata isn’t as hard as the CoD end event
I play this game… alot. I QP into
How many players going from Champ to legend can beat it reasonably?
I carry most of my legend runs and still folks fail left and right on QP.
I’d say my completion with regular QP legend players is like 20% with full books… maybe 40% without when I can 100% it with bots.
You are vastly overestimating the skill of regular players.
If you want more of a challenge, there are 3 additional difficulties beyond in WoM.
Your average player should have AT LEAST a 50% win rate on legend full book if the game allows them to play that difficulty and it for sure doesn’t.
V2 is an exceptionally difficult game, whether you think so or not ( i think its fun )
Id rather have a healthy community that can play and be challenged by legend after they’ve put some time into the game rather than have it dictated by like 3% of the community crying to “git gud”
You have to remember. FORUM people are a minority of a minority.
We are often the most dedicated “best of the best” players. Probably less than 5% of all players and over 2/3 think its overtuned
Your experience is different than mine. I think most maps are appropriate for legend. CoD stands out as a consistent lose for most QP groups i run into
I also hear a lot of “just solo it 4head” from alot of WHC/Handmaiden/Shade/BW players.
I think it speaks to the unbalance of those careers more than anything else
Why? Legend equals “Very Hard” in difficulty settings. And the team has deliberately decided to do this with a third of their health. It is ridiculous to set a success rate of at least 50 % or higher as measuring bar.
Either you are a casual player and play on Veteran and Champion or you are a dedicated player and accept that there are some burtal difficulty spikes. No one forces you to do full book runs, it is a decision. And to get reds, it is enough to play Champion. That Legend for magical reasons is the “farming difficulty” is just community made-up stuff. Seriously, I don’t know any other game where so many people insist that “Very Hard” should be beatable by so many people. It surely didnt happen for L4D.
Because there are 3 more difficulties after it lol
Its not absurd. It’s game design. If you have 7 total difficulties… wtf are you doing with the last 3 ???
And if your community thinks the game is “too hard” base game and quits, well your game dies.
Its NON SENSICAL to create games that allow you to access harder difficulties in a coop game that can’t be reasonably completed if you passed the progression checks beforehand.
No. I’m just sick and tired of playing legend QP with folks that can complete every single map but CoD.
I don’t have a problem playing with bots on legend and my friend group can beat EVERY mission up to cata 2 reliably on console.
Legend CoD is obviously overtuned the general community. Its frustrating to see it come up in QP and expect a loss when literally every other legend map is easier.
Its about consistency, not about how hard or easy you think a game should be