The open letter it was for the investors not the players…
i might suspect that compensation might be inline with the output the team is delivering, hence its not exactly a dream job.
FS is not AAA studio (unless you talk about different AAA there)…
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they got QA for free from us, still they dont use that resource, would internal QA change anything?
yes, that is my theory as well. if you look at console dump logs you can see team is using trunk branch dev model using svn.
making hotfixes on this without using workflow based on git-flow must be a pain.
in gitflow each release is tagged so its easy to hot fix patch just that released branch and propagate hotfix to dev branches as well.
the most important part is that its possible to implement checks and balances before each build making sure that release/dev/qa branch is not in any way behind the previous hotfixes… hence you can make sure you work on latest thing!
pain only emperor can endure
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Hell if this is a minimum pay => minimum work situation then I’m glad the game is in the state it’s in.
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clearly more skilled devs got the game to the point of release, all recent changes and balancing attempts (see skingate) are done by more junior team members who learn as they go. senior members are working on something else (OMG we know the secret FS!)
there is no way that team who developed the game is doing support right now, support is too low quality when compared to whole game, it would be impossible for current dev team to implement game that good.
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I wish DT just die already so people get out of this abusive relationships.
As Catfish said back in the days: “It can’t get any worse right?”, well, now we are next weeking a blog post with 10 lines of text for lied reason. Still have a room for an improvement.
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@Fatshark_Hedge @FatsharkCatfish
Could we know if there are more thing planned for Darktide at Skull other than the Comm Link ? Either ingame events or news
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“I can’t tell you anything right now. You should wait till 25 of May when i probably will post Commlink, i hope technical issues and red day will be solved till this time”
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I don’t care about Hadron’s in Mission Dialogue having Sas… but upgrading an item, getting a bad roll or a bad upgrade, after you just sunk 500k into buying items and Hadron decides to give you a +1 Stamina and +block efficiency perk with the Words: “I hope you are pleased, Varlet” and “I can improve your weapons, if motivated” (Suggesting she can’t be bothered to improve the weapon for you, if you get a bad roll), is just insult to injury. And sure, it is just static you ignore eventually, but someone on the Dev team planned this out and deliberately put it there.
And that sad thing is… Modders fixed most of this. People not paid, doing it in their spare time, did what the developer could or would not.
I am at the point where i believe its a question of “don’t want to” instead of “can’t do it”, simply because their writing team, coming up with these things surely meet and discuss all of this. And nobody seems to have stopped to wonder if any of that is appropriate to repeat to the player over and over and over again.
I am fine with Hadron being a Tsundere, so old that she activately pushes people away because she doesn’t want to make new friends anymore. It allows for funny moments like in that one mission where the mask slips and she goes all “Feel the might of the omnisiah” and then catches herself. It is a very funny line. But it does not make up for the constant “Hope you are pleased with the poor work i could only be bothered to be doing, you uncultured swine” you get to enjoy outside the missions.
I don’t expect AAA quality. And their own job listing contains this line:
“We are a critically acclaimed Swedish game development studio with about 180 experienced and skilled employees.”
Then my expectations of what 180 people can do in 6 months, even if we divide them across 3 (which would still leave us at 60 people for Darktide) or 4 (still 45 people) games/projects, then what we get does not meet my expectations of what 50 odd people can deliver. No matter the rating we want to give their company.
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Arn’t you really underestimating the size of financial, HR and other non-developing departments now?
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You want to tell me that you need 1/3 of that work number for financial, HR and Janitors? Even if we cut out 30 people to do financial, HR and non-development departments out of the 180 number it still leaves a lot of actively working people on the projects.
You’ll also notice that i listed 3 to 4 active projects, when it seems Vermintide 2 also doesn’t really get much in terms of development anymore. I believe they are still waiting for the Sivannah DLC.
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Yes, I think you severely underestimate how much overhead there is in Swedish companies.
The fact is that we have absolutely no idea how many are actively working on developing DT, even though they continue to underwhelm us every single month!
About 10 for all updates we’ve got last 6 month. And rest for console port or in constant vacations idk.
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Are those FTE though? Are you also counting the unpaid interns who does most of the coding?!
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Bro I have seen MODDB projects and solo dev early access games get more content in 6 months than this here trash fire.
(And before someone says modders just reuse most assets, don’t, it will be a classic case of irony.)
I am extremely sad, noone seems to care about this game but us. The CMs lie all the time, they edit previous posts in secret. The devs must not be too good at what they are doing, because the game is and always has been in a sorry technical state. And the leaders clearly have no idea what they should do because there seems to be no direction for the game.
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If they didn’t care they would not have tried releasing on a red day
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And i guess everyone who is logged in to the armory exchange browser tool that locks into the game via your steam account is part of those numbers too.
Game is done.
Devs give nothing about the player base. And most part of the player base turns a blind eye on that fact, because somehow they still have some hope left, that MAYBE fatshark will fix everything at some point.
RED DAY? Is this a joke i just don’t get? Heck i should try and get me a JOB as a CM at FS too.
That must be a dream job. All i would have to to is log into my account ONCE an month and write a fast 3 liner to inform the crouwd that there will be no information untill next week/month/year whatever.
And with all the Red Days to come i would always have my way of getting payed for nothing.
Mobile phones, Internet, Zoom meetings… welcome to the digital age.
At least be honest and don’t straight up lie to us!
- The com link was ment to be posted automaticly, but the release failed.
- The com link was ment to be posted, but its content was no longer up to date doe to problems with the supposed content it self.
- The com link itself was never ment to happen this week anyway, and it was just another ‘‘please hold the line’’ thing FS has pulled on us so many times before.
Pick what hits the nail.
Kristi himmelsfärdsdag was yesterday. And noone can drink THAT MUCH to be UNABLE to post some lines of text about anything for a FULL WEEK!
If there is nothing to post because the content is not ready now, then just ADMIT IT! The patch has to be delayed because it is not finished? just ADMIT IT!
It is that simple. It is that fundametaly and most basic thing you teach every child! DO NOT LIE! If you did something bad or broke something, do not try to cover it up. Admit it and then work out a way to solve the problem.
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Agreed. They did some work on a holiday, even if just to give us the sad news.
Fatshark has always cared, that is not the issue.
The thing is, they’re ambitious and when they’re in a high phase of development they want to share their excitement and spill it out to the public. But sometimes they overestimate the speed at which they will continue - Maybe something technical will come up, maybe some code causes issues. And then they do not release the thing on time.
On a secondary note: I distilled the Happenings of yesterday’s Discord in a handy little manga (read from right to left):
P.S.:
Everyone may seem devastated now, but that will fade in time, too. :3