It’s a much easier class to play than the others on controller. Staffs are really easy to aim vs guns
Yes, we agree…
You cannot aim correctly with a controller. And sadly, unlike VT2, DT is half ranged half melee…
My skill is so good that I can do it🤷♂️
Agree, and more than that, you just can’t look around as fast. It’s a handicap. Maybe it’s possible to do auric maelstroms etc with a controller but I’m skeptical.
The truth is 99% of the hate for console and MS players is only seen in threads like this. We all carry sometimes…
The truth is there is no buy in for gamepass players, no commitment.
I’d also like to add that the default controller settings, configurations, and options available do create a massive hurdle for people to clear to be effective with a controller. This is Fatshark’s fault, not the players, and it is a limiting factor that you have to work around.
I can give a breakdown on how poorly controllers are supported in this game, and how they have continued to refuse to implement modern aiming innovations and settings for about 10 years if you want a wall of text.
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The cool thing with good aim assist and controller options is you can turn your turn rate up tons.
You can see from my video a turn rate of 1.8. Normal is 1.3. I’m still experimenting but I’ve had it all the way up to 2.0 which is super fast.
FS still has work to do on their aim assist algorithm but it’s better than it used to be.
They just added in patch 13 the option to have turn rate be exponential (so the increase in your rate of turn increases as you move your joystick). You can see this in my video comparing my melee with my ranged attacks. I push joystick all the way out for really fast movement and I hardly move it for my ranged.
They also added how fast that exponential rate increases in patch 13, which I’ve been messing with but haven’t decided a comfortable number yet
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So I added a complaint to my previous post about their substandard settings, particularly the defaults. Dynamic is dual zone, which means low sensitivity in the middle for aiming and high sensitivity at the edges for turning. You can also change the curve for more sensitivity in the middle so you can jack up the sensitivity. It’s far from perfect, but they are still improving. I’ll give exponential a try, it is the setting carried over from CoD. Overwatch and Gears are two examples of games with perfect aiming, to the point of not noticing the settings once you tune them.
The problem is you need to have a lot of experience to know the difference, and the defaults are straight up terrible.
Yup 100% agreed.
If you think these are bad, prior to April it was really bad to the point I didn’t even like ranged weapons.
Cod still is way better (most fps I remember honestly are probably better), but they are getting there.
Try exponential, turn the rate up to liek 1.7 and set the rate slider thing down a little bit. That’s what I’m trying now. I might turn the rate up to 2 and turn the rate slider down even more…I’m hoping it translates to super fats turning when I want it and precision aiming when I need it.
Well, the topic is not how to make players with controller better. Seriously, there’s nothing you can do to change the mind of a lot of people here. It is about getting the option to opt out of crossplay for steam players.
And again, this is not console hate, I have a xbox serie X and lot of games on it. But not even 1 FPS.
You like to play with a controller, fine. Play, enjoy, take pleasure.
But, several here would like a possibility to opt out. Discord is NOT a solution. A solution could be something in the game, like a real social hub.
But, they won’t do it… so let’s us opt out of crossplay.
And yes, this would not forbid anyone to use a controller on steam… however, I bet that there are few players that use a controller on a PC for an FPS game.
Also, see the tourist we had in our game. The psyker was totally useless and killed things by accident. Problem is, this is Auric. And in Auric, being 3 can make it really difficult.
And he died 6 times and was knocked down 10 times while he did 136k damages (others 421 / 463 / 653). Seriously, even a bot can do better.
Cough * ranking system * cough
Why a ranking system? and what is behind this word. If it is a sort of competition, no. It if is a wall to forbid players to do what they want… again no.
Option to opt out of crossplay. Simple and effective.
Oh maybe you don’t know what that means. Sorry - I shouldn’t assume.
You ever hear of dota 2? Tons of games do it but I’m familiar with that one so I’ll tell you how it goes
You get liek 5 games when you 1st make an account and your performance in those 5 games dictates where they place you on the ranking system. It used to be number but I just do unranked now. I’ll leave it as a number so it easier to understand
So let’s say the ranks go from 1000 (you’re horrible) - 2000 (you’re professional).
If you are an ok gamer you’ll probably end up 1300-1400. Top 5% are 1700+
Your ranking goes up and down every match depending on your performance and you only match with peopel of similar ranking
Edit: I this this works much better than segregating communities since it accomplishes what you are trying to do anyways…you will never play with someone who is bad if you yourself are not bad
I suppose if you are willing to have them drop support for the pc/steam version of the game because of the low playerbase, then they should sever crossplay and let those players drift into the abyss. They’ve clearly got most of the money they are going to get from that arm of the playerbase.
The alternative is to try and help console players and develop the controls and training to bring them up to speed.
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I never said that you’re not horrible. I’ve kept saying that they are a liability and I stand by that. I’ve yet to move any goal post. You just have little to no reading comprehension.
I am not a liability. You keep forgetting I am included in “they”
Yea that’s why I am so against what they are advocating for. Really it’s the only reason. A bigger community thrives longer
“I never said you are not horrible”
If you stop using double negatives like correct English, then people could understand you better🤪
Yes. And?
Bad players are liabilities. MNK or controller. They are liabilities
Agreed. I’ve watched your footage and I’d consider you a liability on the highest difficulty. Simple.
Actually, it was PC gamepass that had such problems.
also, I / we don’t ask for the end of the crossplay… just a possibility to opt out of it.
Final word… the first responsible of this request are the ones that join difficult level they cannot handle at all. I can forbid that someone begin on a difficulty level, but here this is not that. It is like they jumped from malice to auric.