2h swords hot takes

You want me you imagine up scenario for you? Who’s the one with limited imagination?

Try successfully dodging, duelist bonuses and all. 99% of the defensive game is dodging and pushing, often a combination of both.

See the thing is if they weapon’s heavy attack has a block state that can be held, like vt2 bret ls, then you might have been onto something.

The weapon is mid, stop making poor excuses. The weapon you love doesn’t have to be absolute god tier #1.

You know, I leave for work and come back to you still going, this was a hilarious and pathetic thread to read. You really got this mad over people disagreeing with you. You have multiple posts in here flagged by the community. Damn dude you really do have that persecution fetish.

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Projection as usual I see.

He’s the one getting mad about me calling it mid.

Flag all you want, just proves to me that you can’t handle truth such that you want to hide it.

You’re right about one thing, it is quite pathetic and hilarious thread. Reading about your failings has once again proven this is one of the forums of all time.

Then compare it to the vet PS.

I feel that the vet PS does better… As several pointed the PS can cleave a pack of crushers…

This absolutely true

This is also true

It is not… But on my build that is… As always and cause of fatshark, a critical build.
So I can spam fury the faithful and use the special on crushers.
It kills them fast.
Not as fast as a duelling sword itself and even without bonus, and not as good as a vet power sword.
Also, if they nerf invocation of death (and as it is too strong it should one day happens) then this weapon will loose its efficience.

It just means that 1h power swords need rework, so they will not have their power potentional unconditionaly just spaming activation button. Make them work on charge like 2h or on battery, and give them somewhat not spammy combos, so you will have power spikes.

If you will take look at 1h force swords, they have a reversed problem, in many cases it’s faster to kill things just spaming heavy, instead of using special, like with Deimos poke attack for example.

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I’ve been asking for that nerf(or really any kind of nerf) for years.

1h force sword, or rather the worst one, did get buffed.
Deimos is fine for it doing huge dmg + stagger(knocks down crushers).

Ok, to say the least… I love this system. With it, I can avoid the overcharge most of the time and even have the time to kill an entire wave of mixed horde with the power activated.

However, I hate havoc… to the point I begin to think that I will start playing something else.

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After some testing I have to say… I don’t like either of the 2 handed swords. Mobility is just such a key to survival in higher difficulties and they don’t give enough staying power to justify how slow you are when things start shooting at you. Went back to one handed weapons. The relic blade wasn’t too bad. I really didn’t like the force great sword, especially compared to the one handed (Demios heavy 2 sends crushers to the floor).

Maybe for the force great sword it would be better if you could use peril to generate the special attack… or vaulting or getting hit and other such things didn’t lose your charge.

But I don’t really know how I would balance them. They’re just too slow, and dodge very little. And when I am swarmed by elites, specials, pox walkers, and being shot at, they’re just not worth it.

Psyker at least has 100%(although not exactly 100%) cleave bonus on high peril node so it can cleave okay after you spammed a few waves and just send a light attack wave(aoe stagger is pretty decent, stops attacking ragers) when you drop below 100%, such as when you proc ByCrackOfBone. At least you get to hit 4 ragers on a horizontal heavy that way.

But, you know, “HOW DARE YOU HATE MUH FAVORITE WEAPON” /s

I think its more that its a new thing, its decently fun, and that the takeaway that everything needs to drop into the game at the exact level of top performance or bust is pretty ass. Ogryn already had that happen to his melee weapon slot that used to be a fun and relatively nuanced pic-choice that involved making the trade off between hordes/safety/elites. Every content add they shouldn’t have to come back and harmonize the kit with balance at some point (and kick the can down the road further every time they do). Because that doesn’t really happen anymore.

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I do think they need some serious balance passes overall in the game to be fair.

The weapon is fine, with its real issue being it’s just seems like a better Evi, and that’s partially a fault of the Evi. It’s not OP, seeing as it lives in the same environment that allows Knives, Dueling Sword IV and Rashad Combat Axe to exist.

which you made up, nobody was asking for crutchsword/ds level of broken(in fact most are asking for nerfs), you can give these new 2h swords the same dmg as crutch sword and they would still have inferior mobility/cleave. Or give them the cleave and they have inferior mobility/dmg. (and thus they’re still below the power level of crutchsword/ds) The moveset and heat management makes relic blade more tedious to use on top of that.

it has no ability to cleave through crusher, it has mid cleave(only when activated), it has inferior sprint.

If you squint hard enough even heavysword/normalsword is fine.

They are, yeah. The bigger issue is the three broken weapons I’d mentioned, even their not as OP marks are better than everything else. Outright bad weapons are reserved for ogryn, ranged slots and tac axe atm lulw.

I’ll also add, this thing (and regular plain Jane boring swords) not having the chain weapons bite makes it feel better than all of those. These are not high bars to clear. Personally I wouldn’t use the sword because it relies on activation. I don’t like needing a weapon special for a weapon to compete at all, but out of the current weapons that have an activation mode, it’s right alongside old Psword in terms of how it feels, and only because veteran with psword has like zero mobility. Put that thing on zealot and it’d actually feel okay.

@Padds Considering their release schedule with weapons I would of hoped for something other than half-baked reskins, but thats the story of Darktide and FS.

heh

your entire unhinged takeaway grew out of ‘its not vet power sword’ so if you have an actual point to make besides whining that it isn’t top performing go on and spit it out. its just a lot of annoying noise in a topic about a weapon that is truly mid tier like it was a crime for them to make weapons that are versatile but not blessed in all categories. Oh the humanity.

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tbf, Vet Power Sword is a lot more simple to use and (I think) has better kill stats when it’s activated.

But it’s stuck on veteran and makes their already diarrhea mobility even worse lmao.