I play with my friends the highest levels that go. My job is to stand at a high point as a sniper and protect my team from ranged fighters and elelite.
This style of play is fantastic, endlessly fun and the main reason why I have several hundred hours of playtime.
Knowing the corners on each map where to stand and shoot was one of the main points. Since “Camo Expert” was removed in the last patch, I can’t stand on any crates anymore, because I get shot down from 3 sides within seconds.
We need “Camo Expert” back!
It was the main feature of a whole playstyle and the last update just made all the other classes more interesting, but also limited the sniper?
After looking forward so much to a patch, it’s sad to see that it almost killed the game for me.
For the game style where you stand at the back and pick elite you need the marked enemies & the extra dmg against them.
This is unfortunately not compatible with this ult.
I see why you love this style of gameplay but I have seen several complaint about it as it’s pretty much used to let the reste of the team deal with the difficulty on their own.
It’s great in a coordinated team (a friend play like you and like to use it). But when going with random and two of them use it, it apparently made the game pretty frustrating for the two poor souls who had to deal with everything running at them.
orges with shields are terrible for me, because they always stand in front of you in such a way that you can’t see or hit anything, because my weapon doesn’t go through them and when there are two of them I don’t have fun anymore.
What I’m saying is all characters have play styles that affect the others but why does it have to be the veteran.
The amount of people who would use camo and do nothing useful while believing they did was pretty much all of them.
You can still kill elites and specials and you can do it in several ways with the new tree, you just have to be aware and dodge some attacks in between, like everyone else does all game.
It’s just impossible to stand on top of boxes. Range enemies shot you down in seconds.
Ofc can I play the game in a different way and get good results. But the sniper feeling and playstile is gone.
And this sniper playstyle was the only reason I could play the same game hundreds of hours.
Sounds like more of “you changed the game, no I can’t play anymore”
You can still snipe with the MK12 without much trouble. Hell you can even snipe with a autogun if you have a steady hand. Supression immunity through “determined” helps alot with the sway from the MK12.
You have enough toughness regen and DMR if you spec your curios and talent tree properly.
It is mostly about the knockback when range minions hit you. It’s just not possible to stand in many places anymore because you get shot right off. Nothing you can do about it.
But refilling a grenade every now and then is of course a great gimmick. Now the other classes, with their powerful grenades like the Orgren, can have more fun!
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a personal fan of either the old or the new here. I’m just saying that the replacement is objectively worse for this job than the original even if we didn’t now have enemies appearing from everywhere and nowhere during events. Together, the changes make OP’s playstyle practically unviable.
Nah, it’s a “wait and see” situation. They’ll make some attempt at addressing the complaints around vet at some point, I’m sure. The questions are what they’ll do and how long they’ll take to do it.
There are many old skills that remained untouched or even buffed.
So I guess they reworked Camo Expert just because there were complaints about it, and it’s very unlikely it will be returned just because someone liked it in a premade group.
