As a veteran of the 700h laser gun, my greatest expectation is to enhance the recoil performance of the infantry laser. At the very least, when firing, there should be no such strong shaking and recoil. The Lucius laser gun can be equipped with a scope, and the left talent can be optimized specifically. At the very least, there should be no more emphasis on shooting the enemy’s weak points.
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Totally agree.
A thread has been made about this…
Infantry Lasguns - Warhammer 40,000: Darktide / Gameplay Feedback - Fatshark Forums
However, it seems that, in lore, there is a recoil. The current recoil is, however, far too strong.
I precise that you won’t get the recoil if you do not aim…
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Yes because i at least asked what you l337zors consider a non-newb skilled veteran and the question alone is quite worthy on its own merit.
Because so far from this thread we learned that running around with a working meta weapons and build(s) is low skill lazy and pathetic…exact words you fellas used!
Going past the absurdity of this entirely elitist take, maybe you guys could perhaps consider that it was you who set the tone here, either by calling people low skill and lazy for playing meta weapons and trying to gatekeep who can participate in the discussion or having a high horse talk about how people gonna get angry.
Dude pretty sure if i press ctrl + f and put a word pathetic into the search it will find your post in here, wont it? What sort of value did that added to the discussion besides further highlighting the smug elitism on display? And what makes you think you are even remotely fit to ask others what they bring to the discussion?
But hey, what would be the high skill non lazy non pathetic veteran in your eyes? We know its nobody who plays meta stuff so what is it? What sort of off meta jank one has to play with in order to reach the proper heights of the skill?
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I don’t know what you take, but I want it.
What I have wrote is that:
Maybe you feel attacked if you consider yourself good when using most broken weapons, but I did not attack on skill. You can play a veteran and be skilled…
I point the biased appreciation of the players that think that they are good, when they use weapons totally broken.
It is not a judgement about all players… just a part of them. I have seen skilled PG players. They usually deal 800 - 1 millions damages. I have also seen bad PG players. They deal the same amount of damages of other players.
PG is too strong. Boltgun is somewhat too strong (in auto fire). DS is too strong. VoC is too strong.
But on zealot, AiB makes the boltgun a monster. IoD is too strong. Holy revenant is problematic. etc.
On Ogryn pickaxes are too strong. The build I currently use it is surely too strong when I compare it to my zealot.
Psyker is most broken class. A good psyker (really skilled) can deal really too many damages. That’s not normal. I don’t play psyker, so don’t know how and why you achieve that. I suspect soulblaze, but not sure.
A lot of things are totally broken in this game. Most obvious one is the golden toughness, from chorus or for VoC.
But weapons are also a big problem.
But as we won’t get a balanced game in one patch… they should start by the most obvious ones. PG and DS.
Oh and all the words in this quote are true:
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okay
Right, lets stop right here.
That’s something that you made up in your head or it happens in your social circle, but it has no value whatsoever for anything.
You somehow conjured in your head this thing about people considering themselves good or something and for some reason decided to make every other post in here about it, but it taints every point you are trying to make and make you look like an elitist on an ego trip, okay?
Keep your delusion out of the discussion, get over the one bad chat you had with a veteran and try to make your balance points without it, thanks…
Seriously mate, keep it where its happening…in your head!
yeah talking about elitist on an ego trip, right? get over yourself and your judgements dude
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What is actually wrong with batter in curent state?
I can assure you that… no I am part of the “elitist” faction.
I don’t play Havoc, I take fun with regular damnation even if I can play HistG (did it a while).
Love regular damnation cause most of the times you get people that discover the difficulty. And so you have to help them. And as a consequence, when you meet such guys, that tend to try to keep a real coherency. And things get better…
You can check my history on my profile. Something that summarize what I think when I meet someone with who I disagree would be « I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. »
I don’t get the merit of your question but here you go: footage of a skilled veteran doing havoc things with a ball-bustingly bad weapon so terrible you can count the amount of ranged kills they get in game.
Is that player 1337zors enough to have an opinion on Veteran?
Batter was always an OP talent, but because of how weak Ogryn was people didn’t care much
But now that Ogryn is an actual class (and the fact batter itself was ALSO buffed), the issues with Batter are starting to rise
The biggest problem is light attack spam weapons like bully club which get a huge benefit for just spamming left click all the time
Reducing light attack bleed from +2 stacks to +1 stacks should be a good enough nerf
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I’m the bookbot on this video 
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I find Veteran quite weak personally or at least its the Class i personally struggle the most with.
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At present, the veteran class is more like an auxiliary profession. It supports teammates by using battle roar 、 ammunition recovery skills and use plasma to kill elite enemies that teammates cannot cover .
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since veteran is reduced to be a melee class it doesn’t surprise me that someone can pull their weight with a shotgun
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My goat
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Don’t see any reason to nerf vet’s talent tree or passives . Plasmeme seems to be the only thing people take umbrage with I guess, but a good vet can rip without it.
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Is anyone talking about nerfing tree? If anything we all want the ogryn treatment and just to tweak down the OP parts such as golden shout and CD spamming. General weapon imbalance of plasma and DS while tweaking everything else potentially up
Balance requires some nerfing and buffing typically games favors buffing and power creep, to avoid player backlash at tiniest of nerfs…for example i recommended adding 1 operative modifier tax talent to beginning of ogryn tree and massive backlash.
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Yeah they shouldn’t nerf Stuff. Rather should buff Weapons and the other Trees like Ogryns; add a new Difficulty after Damnation and Havoc 50 then too
A lot of Weapons also really don’t do great at higher difficulties and Situations you can get in, they really drop hard compared to other Stuff like Flamer, Bolter etc. like imagine using Combat Shotgun or any of the Autoguns instead of Flamer/Plasma/Lasgun and so on Damnation+
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There are weapons and talents that need nerfing regardless if they plan to buff the other ones
“Havoc 50” as an idea is just pushing the powercreep further
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Agreed, he is so squishy. Vet is the weakest and hopefully he will be buffed.
Yeah infinite gold toughness is just so weak
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