Press X for doubt.
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Fine, Iâll just assume all your scorecards are from recruit. See how that works?
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go for it
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I can 100% guarantee you thatâs a Legend card man. Hereâs another:
Again, there was nothing remotely special about HS. Also, using scorecards to prove a point is bs.
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Yep seems some people donât really know the game at all, or theyâre just trolling. Saying WS doesnât have a halberd option? Someone has never seen the power of glaive and SnD, or heck even the 2H elven if you can live with lower armor damage.
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Revy Iâve literally outdamaged both a huntsman and a bounty hunter in legend as a level 22 drakefire ironbreaker stfu LMAO. The fact youâre using post game stats to argue balance issues is ridiculously dumb.
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Donât feed the troll, itâl throw up again like it did in beta.
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like theres so many variables youâre intentionally ignoring. What was the map, what were the skill levels of your teammates, what were spawn rates/minibosses like, what kinds of specials were popular, team composition, loadouts/builds. Like holy hell dude yes if you had +skaven damage on an armor killer character and you just played a game of into the nest you will have good looking stats what does that have to do with anythingâŚ
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I agree they were both potentially good in 1.0.7 if a little bit harder to use for most people. The problem is that they didnât revert him back to the power level he had even in 1.0.7 hes weaker now. Yes they didnât take away his weapons completely and replace it with a corndog he can still do well if played well but its complete bull to have him weaker than the state he was already in where maybe 10% of the community could play him okay at a high level.
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Why are you being so hostile? Everyone here is saying the exact same thing you are, no more, no less.
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Oh I donât disagree that he is crap right now
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Im just saying shade and huntsman were better than a lot of people gave them credit for prior to 1.0.8, but everyone on this forum whined about how bad they were which is why they got buffed to space in 1.0.8, people here complained and they both got gutted, big surprise, so forgive me for being salty. The forums are just a dumpster fire of people demanding buffs and nerfs constantly.
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Iâm pretty sure we all agree. This is what we were trying to prevent.
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Huntsman Kruber (Longbow), prior to nerf:
Bosses:
https://s1.webmshare.com/PeD80.webm
Patrols (elites):
Iâm sorry I donât have any footage of him vs a Chaos patrol prior to the change, but he was the only career where I didnât worry about them on. Itâs not hard to imagine that with the fire rate he has and the amount of shots he gets off in an ultimate, he made short work of them too.
Hordes:
This videos contains CW kills, a patrol, horde clearing, a boss, special killing and infantry spam clearing. Using ult to get full ammo again.
-ammo
-rate of fire
-crit chance
-accuracy
-damage
-range
Why should he be able to do almost everything better than every other career and with a long range weapon? The answer is why he got nerfed.
Iâm glad they went for the ultimate and not a nerf to Longbows over all playstyle.
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These are taken from 1.08, and much like you yourself for having never ever played him before 1.08, it is all worthless feedback at this point, and has literally nothing to do with this thread.
Please donât use my thread to attempt to draw viewers to your twitch, and I have had quite enough of your disingenous false feedback.
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Literally the exact opposite of whatâs being talked about but sweet plug and misinformation, yet again.
Christ, you even admit to not knowing what youâre talking about as far as pre-1.0.8 guess.
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Not into piling up against folks, but what exactly have those videos that you have already posted ad nauseum in your own topic to do with this discussion? It is stated pretty clearly that we are talking about HS 1.0.7. and how we think he should be back to where he was before.
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You made it relevant:
This was the feedback @CommanderJ and @Avar are calling disingenuous. They wouldnât engage on any of these points made. They just tried to use ad hominem attacks and ignored any genuine feedback. It also included screenshots.
Time to fix Kruber, FatShark - #39 by Kitten
These two posts have been to show their debating techniques, should you wish to hold a differing opinion to them. They are also to defend myself as these two have continued to call me a liar through several different threads. So now you can see the evidence I put out and the points I made and how in response theyâre still trying to dismiss me.
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No, we engaged thoroughly. Your response was âla la I canât hear you.â You literally did not respond to any criticism in a meaningful way. Restating your position over and over in an increasingly rude way isnât âdebate.â
Also, lmao at using ad hominem to complain about ad hominem. Holy crap XD how manipulative can you get?
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My biggest commentary is that Shade and Huntsman prior to 1.0.8 might of been a bit too strong anyway, but how would you fix them? If they got any nerfs they would be outshined by WS / BH respectively. I think most of us agree 1.0.7 was fine, personally to me it felt like the most balanced patch, pretty much all classes had representation. Sure some were easier to play or more high skill high reward but all of them functioned well. The exception maybe being ranger vet before x-bow changes.
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