you win.
Yeah, It takes the fun out of the game when sienna with a beam staff on champ/legend difficulty is basically Doom guy murdering everything.
2 Likes
i’m an elf main actually. i hardly play sienna because i dislike managing heat, but i understand how pro players use her well enough.
but feel free to attack me personally because you dislike my opinions =)
1 Like
Who said tranquillity is broken? that’s the most lol I’ve read in a while. Comparing pyro brokeness to battle wizard
pro? wtf…
2 Likes
Not about who has the most kills, no. But what I’m seeing with current Beam Staff meta is teamplay evolving to mean “escort the beam wizard”. It’s not an especially fun way to play the game.
9 Likes
Thank you.
I went back to play Sienna in Vermintide 1 and holy hell I was surprised how little I could shoot after having played with Unchained/Pyromancer Fireball Staff and Beam Staff. The balance felt so right over at VT1… I could deal great damage but had to compensate my power-spikes with either slower melee phases (thanks to 75%+ overheat) or by playing defensively.
Sienna was the last character I discovered a loving playstyle for (Conflag-meta trait combo + the wonderful Mace) but in Vermintide 2 I can’t stand playing as her. Terrible melee options (the mace/staff is so garbage and so anemic in sweeps it makes me want to cry) and two staffs I found moderately enjoyable to play with (that being Fireball for hordes and Beam for… well everything.) If I need to play Sienna, I will only pick Unchained as Pyromancer is no fun anymore and certainly does not feel like Vermintide but more so a on-rails-shooter experience. The hard part is that I can’t avoid seeing at least one meta-maniac once every 3rd game, so it takes out a lot of the fun for me. My enjoyment aside, I hope they can make Bright Wizard great again and Pyromancer forced to chill out a bit.
6 Likes
well there is a downside. You say the beamstaff is instant.
but it actually is the opposite.
first, there is a small delay when you press the left mouse button.
but second and foremost, try to kill a storm vermin or specials before Victor or Kerillian do. It’s impossible.
1 Like
Actually on long range Sienna kills fastest as Kerillian longbow has arrow drop so player needs to calculate for that so it actually takes skill to aim at long distance and calculate drop so it hits head. Secondly- it takes ammo and third- it has arrow draw time before fire.
As for Saltzpire- A) Volley xbow has spread so it doesn’t work on medium long ranges B) it takes ammo C) If you talk about Repeater Pistol- I agree it’s almost as broken as beam staff. D) If you talk about crossbow - same as Longbow - arrow drop, draw, ammo.
However beam staff has A) straight line B) it’s constant beam so easy to adjust to moving target C) Has no damage drop off on long range and D) It doesn’t require ammo.
So no, not really.
1 Like
OMEGALUL
arrow drop? yes but where is the problem?
besides, Bounty Hunter needs a bodyshot. how could Sienna possibly kill faster?
can’t count how often it happened that I stun locked a special for seconds which - of course - then was killed by Kerillian or Victor
You can’t see how it would be harder to land a headshot with arrow that drops and has flight time vs a literal laser beam that has no flight time, no drop and hits exactly where you point it non-stop and allows you constantly correct it?
Also you don’t see how long range special kill is faster than close range bodyshot kill? Wow.
A tip: if you kill something before it’s in range of BH crossbow - that is faster kill. Hence why we invented bows over swords…
what heat management? i leveled sienna to 12 just to have someone to craft green items for dust(people should do this btw). i leveled her through champion running with bots starting at level 4 and simply putting vent on crit, rolling crit on your staff and having some crit on charm is enough to shotgun hordes endlessly. there is zero management necessary and it only gets more careless and braindead as you get more talents.
1 Like
what are you talking about?
the second I see a special while playing the bounty hunter with crossbow, it’s dead.
just to make sure I am not overlooking a third attack mode of the beam staff: you kill specials with a long click of the left mouse button, right?
how could this be faster??
speaking of seeing:
you didn’t see that I wrote it only needs a bodyshot
Victor crits at least every 7 seconds.
but you even kill storm vermin on challenging with ONE normal shot. Was playing before the patch 1.05 though. don’t know about now
aside from all that: calculating the arrow drop is doable and then definitely makes you a faster special killer than sienna (talking about the beam staff - not the special ability of the Pyro)
Ummm…dude? There is a third attack on the beam staff, where you click the RMB after starting a beam and it does a heavy burst of damage on the beam’s target. This burst of damage has armor pen and a significant headshot multiplier. It’s why beam staff is broken. It has three attacks for three situations (beam for sustained dps on bosses, beam explosion for special sniping, and shotgun for horde clear) and thus has far more power and versatility than any other weapon in the game by a significant margin.
ok. my bad then!