So...about new havoc

Somebody win 30 already? I try 12 times and now matter how hard u try - u just got overrun by LOTS of enemies…or bugs)

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I’ve completed 30, but it took me multiple tries (more like failures) with randoms.

The mission that we won was Enclavum Barross with Rituals and Healing Elites. I played Thunder Hammer FOF Zealot, we had 2 Psykers (both purge I think) and Vet with Plasma.

After that I lost a bunch again, and now I’m at 28.

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i’m really bummed by that deranking. makes it impossible to just try out things, especially with randoms. it adds stress and angry typing.

the new modifiers are better though than cracked gunners and goop, one doesn’t look for book & bubble and little else, more build diversity.

had one game where a stealth zealot seemed to have not read how spawns work now, ran away and suddenly we drowned in enemies. and the other try went well (oblivium, healing enemies and i forgot what else) up to the courtyard where you drop down and continue to the medicae. within seconds there were like 20 gunners in the dark behind a spawn, an untimely end. buddy didn’t feel like playing this afterwards and tbh i’m also not enthusiastic for this 3 strikes rule after having rank 40 until now.

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how is one supposed to create darktide content when the game actively keeps you from playing?!?

i mean sure if one has the magic trick of unemployment i guess the day would net a few good rounds, with a premade in mind as havoc is structured right now.

but spending 4 hours in havoc and potentially have nothing to show for is not how you feed a youtube channel, no matter how small.

and ultimately this pisses me off so much, i want to create something akin to all those figures filling dioramas and shelves, end of the day i want to point my finger at :“there, I made that”

havoc has more “prestige” than auric maelstrom but this was its a pain in the A.S.S

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#derankthederank

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Done another 30 mission, but at this point I’ll never rank up past 30, because people leave as soon as you finish one assignment, and other teams are always a gamble. :confused:

There’s a much higher chance I’ll derank with the next team than win.

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Honestly, cannot blame that Zealot.

It feels like every 6 months the game makes some drastic changes to balance, but fails to explain anything. The hidden modifiers info should be explained on the assignment screen on top of the current modifier flavor text.

Stuff like:

  • Rinda and Rodin Karnak imitators spotted on the battlefield.
  • Extra enemy reinforments will try to stop killteam’s progression, don’t rush ahead!
  • Horde galore, they won’t stop coming!
  • Elite Squads (the game once spawned 10 Healing Bulwarks)…

Sounds cryptic and awkward, but then again, it’s FS’ job to explain things to players.

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so i tried 15 times and always lose. I dont know how we supposed to win this when in 5 games we had 3-4 bosses in the first room and tons of crushers.

I dont know why developers said that we can use not only bubble when u have rooms FULL of gunners and snipers.

Kinda tired today. And i think this is some bugs in spawn logic - because i have 7 games where we just cant go to another location because have CONSTANT spam of all sorts of enemies.

I have great teams, but cant do this.

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should have kept the recording, the guy was a moron if i ever saw one.

pulled the whole starting room, didnt stop at boss spawning, little-dck-ed his way stealth to the rezz with 4 bosses in tow, ressed the vet who couldnt even move one step, literally typed: wtf am i supposed to do.

and failed shortly after, absolute brain degeneracy…

if you dont at least respect the 3 strikes of one offering a run, go f-yourself in my book. :fu:

edit: just realised how mad havoc is making me again…

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For clearence - i dont want easier havoc…just maybe more honest?

Just because i have situations like this:

Look - there is daemonhost ritual that running when we got ambush and cant go to the ritual (door is locked). U know how this ended? like this:

the ironic part be: mortis trials from the feels of it looks like a copy paste doom eternal arena trial (which isnt bad per se)
but at least doom even on nightmare feels fair with the tools it gives you.

havoc has far to many player variables to allow for only 3 tries, especially if people dont take it serious.

so why not go and copy the “whole thing” :smile:

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Hmmm players aren’t playing havoc what should we do

Don’t listen to them and make changes no one wanted that make the mode worse. That ought to work

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I think if we have this new modifiers and old havoc system - it would be better then what we have now

Maybe i just tired after 15 loses.

Unrelated but what mod are you using for the “active indulgences”? Looks pretty helpful

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As with Havoc’s first season my goal is to take 40 with randoms, no discord or other communication. And you know, from 30 I got as high as level 28, and the defeats were for one simple reason: Twins.
They just show up at the worst possible moment, yes I wanted them back, but in a meaningful way, not just ‘eat it’. When you have a ritual, a mob and 2 more bosses cut, twins decide to drop in, and what do you do?
I don’t argue only the first day and later everyone will get used to it and as usual there will be a meta Havoc, but at the moment it looks like they threw everything in the fridge into the blender without really thinking about the end result.
My wish is that the Fatsharks themselves on the stream show and take the 40th Havoc like normal people instead of sitting around eating snacks.

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PSA: Apparently, Twins can now spawn during the extraction phase of Hab Dreyko, right on the bridges that you need to cross to finish the mission.

Doesn’t seem balanced, but alright.

Hope this info saves someone else’s run.

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Tried and failed that

Never again

Ye, they are rough.

I dont understand what setup we supposr to go to reach 40. If 30 is just constant spam of everything.

As for me now it will be relevant to have 2 ogrins, and at least one with a taunt to increase damage and in the hands should be a shield to hold the boss. And of course zealot with prayer, the fourth is at discretion, but psyker is pretty normal. We got pretty far on Dreiko with this lineup, but we got buried by twins.
However, now I really feel the need to play discord so that everyone starts praying for the twins not coming out at the wrong time.
But seriously everyone will get used to it, but at the current moment Havoc’s condition is complete insanity

We won 30 and 31 today, we will win 32 and 33 tomorrow i think.

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