Should the other classes also get shield+weapon combinations?

saw a pole but it was missing some choices, so i made my own.

  • all classes should get their own shield+weapon combo.
  • only psyker should too.
  • only vet should too.
  • only zealot should too.
  • only ogryn and arbites.
  • zealot and vet should too.
  • zealot and psyker should too.
  • psyker and vet should too.
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there are several ways to have shields on each class, for instance, you could give the vet a small axe and shield, that would work great! you could also give the vet a power sword with the shield, that’d be nice. then you could also give him a gun and shiel combo, like a lazpistol!

for the zealot, a relic blade and a shield would work fine, could also give them a thunder hammer.

psyker is just force sword and a shield or a force axe and shield.

ogrny should get a grenade gauntlet with a shield to go with his maul and shield combo.

The Deflector Blessing for Psyker’s Force Weapons is a de facto Shield.

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Just a bit too strong?

I’m on team “Nobody but Arbites needs a shield, unique class weapons are a good thing”, but if any class outside of Arbites gets a shield it should be just Zealot.

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Ogryn should get their Brute Shield, and other pairings of shields

Zealot should get Crusader shields with appropriate pairings.

Vet shouldn’t get any restricted shields.

Psyker should not get any shield.

Now for Enforcers’s shields, either they give them to the Arbites or make them shared among the Zel, Vet, and Arb.

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IMO, the better suggestion is to allow arbites and ogryn to swap their off hand weapon to something else (within reason). Let me offhand a latrine shovel or kniife with the big man, but take away the special action or some other balancing measure?

I’m not so sure RE zealot. They’re always charging with froth and…zeal!

They’re not suited for any defensive items imo.

They still need to QoL this block state to let you see without mods. Or at least make the block only blinding as hell when using Deflector.

As for shields, eh maybe for Zealot but not the others…different gear is what makes the classes different. We already have crazy homogenization among the human careers because of certain ranged/melee we discuss in every thread.

Yeah, Zealot is more of an aggressive class and already swimming in TDR options. Wielding a physical shield that would need to be balanced by bad mobility stats and less damage than their class exclusive two handed weapons could provide would be more of a hinderance than a boon.

Still, gotta admit this is cool AF, even if not reasonable for balancing purposes

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That is not feasible with how weapon animations work in Vt and Dt like it is in Skyrim.

Id prefer to have different dual wield before handing out shields to everyone.

Vet could have sword and pistol equipped at the same time.
Psyker Staff + Melee
Zealot Double Daggers :scream:

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Bad mobility and dodge modifiers tbh, forcing you to be somewhat more into blocks than dodging and sprintings (So Speed runners might no be interested but who care about them.)

What I would be more interested in seeing it both Power weapon (or weapon needing a special), and Suppression or Assault shields both being available)

While I am mostly for Arbites and Ogryn, MAYBE some other class could work with the little shield. But it doesn’t feel like the others should use a shield in the same way.

Note that there are multiple versions versions of the shields. Side cover low or high, as well as spikes on the bottom.


*picture from: Bullgryns and Ogryns Completed - Warhammer 40K Blog

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How cool do those ogryns look! Love those models

Agreed.

There would need to be drawbacks - Vet could only use gun primary fire, no ADS and no melee block while duel weilding melee/gun. Psyker could only use staff secondary and no block on melee while duel wielding staff/melee.

Otherwise it just effectively removes weapon swap time and becomes a balancing issue not to mention the keyboard binds for such a setup will become a royal pain in the a**.

This would actually be great for some single handed weapons (with a mobility cost) and fits Zealot much better than a shield.

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That’s a possibility but wouldn’t Zealots be better getting duel single handed melee weapons before a shield? With the amount of TDR available to a Zealot, a shield just doesn’t seem as necessary.

But it can’t block overheads and sniper shots. So only a half shield.

Zealot with a shield + getting a talent for Chorus to taunt everyone around him would be dope.

the problem i see with

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“shields for everybody”

is it incentivizing people to go full turtle when they run out of options, which they dont possess in the first place.

few ogryn excell with shield and deal enough damage to be a worthy companion.
most plant the thing in a corner and wait for their mates to make the problem go away.

give more people the option for the “not my problem anymore” button and its no wonder they’ll resort to it.

nor has the recent 7 minute video raised any hopes for the arbites shield to be a valid weapon in higher difficulties in general :man_shrugging:

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Yes, fair, but that’s not really the subject in question rn is it ?

It’s a valid counterpoint with relevance to the subject in question. It’s perfectly fine if we disagree