I mean, we’re not plants.
Well some people here might be, but I don’t mean in the taxonomical sense.
i get that argument, people using it though seem to think they got a right to equal participation without equal quality of effort.
first there are no free handouts or scaling down in higher difficulties. chances are if i left a 5pack rager group stand as a killfeed handout, those “needing” it wouldnt even be able to deal with it.
results: dead team mate and situation shifting for the worse for the rest of the group.
second, i had matches when everyone was a beautiful well oiled machine with heretics pieces flying left right and center. the match was done in a heartbeat and scores were even almost to a digit.
i gave my best, perfomed at my maximum for that day, cant speak for the team, if for them it was a snoozefest or sweatpool, but the efficiency in the way everyone did his part was one of the moments when i fell even deeper in love with the game.
so far the board helped me stick to certain loadouts or talents where in theory others were better suited, my playstyle is different and having 30% more output / killd while getting less damage in tells me i’m right on target without having vaguely guess around.
edit: damn fungus arent plants either - too early sorry
They’re closer to animals which is friggin’ wild. Only “plant” that gives you a full protein that’s almost on par with meat.
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hello? is that ordo xenos?
yes, i have an ork problem in my front yard, comin right out the ground.
herbicites ineffective, please advice 
It’s a videogame not a serious sport event.
Maybe i get the “right to equal pasrticipation” wrong, but why the hell someone with less skill has not all rights to equally participate?
His efforts are maybe even bigger than the ones who does better more easily.
Have you heard about the Fictions of Meritocracy?
The fiction of justice states that performance can be freely controlled and influenced by the individual. In reality, individual performance and payment for work performed are limited to a considerable extent by origin, power and property, among other things.
The second fiction of meritocracy is the fiction of measurability. In fact, work performance cannot be determined objectively. Instead, ideas about the person and their work performance form the basis of the assessment.
The third fiction is the assumption that performance can be assigned to individuals. In fact, it is not possible to clearly assign work performance to individual persons in a society based on the division of labour with many small processes and intermediate steps.
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i fully agree with that and have same experiences.
Not sure i just misunderstand you (not my motherlanguage).
It’s what i wanted to point out above. you dont know how much effort, how much sweat someone put into his performance. Maybe someone did really all he can and still didnt provide that much for the team.
But i then respect that anyway and wont ever mock about that.
We cant say people play lousy extra.
also true! like said some posts before i therefore use it if i change build or loadout etc.
but for the normal play i dont need it and it can have bad effect on teamspirit.
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just change PoV and be happy for the for free protein’s 
If a problem turns out to be unchangeable you just have to change your attitode torwards it 
just a thought after playing a mission.
The scoreboard:
- doesnt make anyone more toxic than he already is!
- can provide some data for you to reflect your build and loadout
- can inflict a more statistics than team orientated gameplay and therefore to bad habits, but not neccessarily.
- doesnt show someones effort or skill in total, because good decisions in dicey situations or a sense for good tactics cannot be listed.
Someone may have not the most kills, damage dealt, mates revived, machines operated, ressource gathered, but saved the team more than one time with good decision, good reaction in the right moments and in the end was not only helpfull, but did even more important things than everyone else to end the mission successfull instead of a loss.
imho the pro and contra of a scoreboard even out.
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in difficulty settings he’s being unfit to perform in that is.
my point solely refers to auric maelstrom and the odd one out not contributing anything of value to the progress of the team but be an additional obstacle instead COMBINED with an audacity to run his mouth when things go south.
this is the situation, albeit rare, i put my context into.
that being said, everything is a “game” even well paid sports dont produce anything of value other than entertainment so people are willing to monetize it.
that being so we chose a game with different difficulty settings, to perform at those and ( i suspect, for i clearly do) show our best and be our best out of respect for our and the other guys time they put into the match.
i agree that people dont suck on purpose but waaay often they refuse to get better out of bruised pride and ego.
so my main gripe is dudes joining auric maelstrom, hit the floor like a paper bag dozen times and get mouthy still.
basically like we did in kindergarten with the obnoxious kid: no, we dont want to play with you.
hope that fleshed out a bit of my sentiments
kind regards
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ah ok i see, but i’d judge only if i see someone not fit for Heresy or Damnation or Auric constantly and obviously utilize to get carried all the time.
We mostly just dont know if someone tried and failed.
I’m maybe a good example, i can carry Heresy sometimes, i do good with public teams on Damnation also, but i need the team to work together and maybe a helping hand here and there. I’m not a burden to the team i’d say, but if i now switch to auric for the next step ahead in difficulty and struggle hard i maybe would.
But it’s one way to improve to challenge myself.
I can also play Damnation only and become better there until i can carry on Damnation.
Auric Maelstorm is above me, i dont think that i can do that anytime soon at my age and refelxes 
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age is surely a thing, i’m 43 and know my prime/tournament years arent gonna come back no matter the amount of caffeein and warmup.
thus i retired from competitive shooters were at the end i was only after that constant 5+kd and didnt quit until that quota for the day was done.
save to say it was very stressfull and simply not maintainable with a 10 hour shift stealing much of your days energy.
funny thing is younger dudes at work wanting the odd quake live/champions 1on1 only to get roflstomped some 100 <> -5 asking bugeyed how the old fak was still playing that way.
one thing is experience can make up for twitch reflexes to some degree and even those reflexes aint simply gone. i tilt earlier and need longer to warmup so my 100% timeframe went down from say 16-20 hours at my peak to about 4-6, which is noticable when i take the odd week off just to play/sleep/repeat.
other thing is i simply refuse to give in even an inch in terms of self demands, as it defines me to some degree no matter what time in my life im enjoying this hobby.
co worker of mine cant get his head around my performance when he watches some of my matches, for he “retired” to passive games ( this raid mobile thing,that plays itself it seems) and lost all spirit, wearing his age almost as an inevitable weight or excuse for doing nothing anymore. sad to see.
so as long as your fingers are up to it, give auric a whirl, if anything it makes damnation seem more relaxed.
good luck
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I’m +5 years, but never was that good Like you, Had some good results back then playing CS 1.6
I also cannot play that much, although sometimes at holidays or when not applied i do play unhealthy amount of time.
Im singlepatent, have a dog and other hobbies (percussionist) that are also fun and important to me.
I maybe should spent more time playing drums, but i cant do that at home like i’d like to.
Playing games is just for fun, i was never that competetive in anything of my life.
Try using Emperor-brand fungicide.
Promethium. It’s called Promethium.
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Instructions unclear, called exterminatus
found another application for the scoreboard
had a nasty pneumonia this week and was doing my first match today fresh out of the hospital.
even with all the drowsiness from the antibiotics and having to “force” most of the movements, it turned out all right so i havent “lost” anything while on ice
gonna get something out of your last reply too and lay back on the gaming for a bit in favor of unboxing those mcfarlane warhammer figures that piled up over the last couple months.
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burn it to maximum depth he said 
get healthy 
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Thx mate, already feel better, keeping it slow next couple weeks
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you played one mission using the scoreboard mod and suddenly felt the urge to comment in a bait thread. i’d say that’s solid proof it does make people more toxic,
have you read my posts in this thread? obviously not.
I normally dont answer people who communicate agressive, because all you do here is try to call me out.
NT, but better read before you judge.
5 days as of now
People on the internet enjoy creating troll threads and large communities have outlier individuals that tend to inflate their psychic pain.