I wouldn’t expect it landing anytime before August if I’m being generous, and if I’m not generous my guess would be late 2024 or even 2025. If Fatshark couldn’t even get the proper announcement of the Penance update out on time, I don’t know how it expects to get things like a crafting/itemization rework and additional maps/weapons/ect. in the span of 9 months since they first teased it.
Like that wouldn’t immediately backfire in the ugliest way possible, better leave the thinking to the CMs when it comes to solving that “problem.”
why would you cap that, do you just cap things to stir up drama on the forum?
hence the month. anything that doesn’t address crafting at this point will make them riot, it’s better to lock them out until they calm down by burning themselves out on reddit. there’s no point in pretending they’re going to act in good faith, they’ve already done nothing but hate on the game over a minor point. we already know all the people raging about how it “needs to fix crafting” are not going to care about anything that doesn’t hand them what they want so there’s no point in pretending they will act nice about it. it’s better to just keep them off the forum until they cool off so they don’t poison the well
Please do not pretend that you do not understand. You exclusively log on to stir up drama on these here forums. Besides, my intention was not actually to “stir up drama” but to provide a factual statement with evidence, hence the screenshot. I merely hoped to help others understand why you think that silencing anyone who disagrees with you is an okay thing to do.
You also told someone to go die for disagreeing with you which isn’t very nice, you silly little goober!
I would be surprised to see this update in june. When i originally saw the announcement my immediate thought was something like late Q3 or early Q4.
At most I’m expecting some smaller content update before their summer breake, like new map or something.
Crafting hitting before their vacation sounds bit too copium based for my liking.
I mean I thought it’d be late May when we got the penance update, if not early June. Fatshark likes to avoid forecasting more than a week or two in advance so idk.
FS generally likes to ‘milk’ or stew for 3-5 months.
October - Last large gameplay update with the Class Overhaul
November to December - Traitors Cuurse
4 months of nothing
April - Penance update
If they stick to that routine they might announce a random map or two in may, stretch the release of that out until june and release the itemisation update 4 months later in October. Making it exactly one year since the Class Overhaul.
Damn that sounds bad, now that I’ve said it out loud.
The period from February - July or so last year was fairly productive in terms of the bigger numbered updates. The class overall was #13 and there were 12 more before that.
I wasn’t expecting the penance update to land in mid-April to be honest. And Fatshark usually doesn’t wait too long after communicating about something and releasing it. So many this crafting update is sooner than later. May would be amazing - but we’ll see.
I’ll echo what other have said though that FS’s generally slow pace of development means they are never able to build momentum and build up in their player base. They need to release the next thing when we’re still riding the player spike from the prior update. Instead, they wait 1-2 months for the spike to totally fizzle out before releasing the next thing.
If they could at least shift gears to pace out content and more regular bug fixes & balance tweaks it would sustain some of momentum between bigger releases. But they struggle with that too.
I think crafting will come later this year, albeit not before summer. Autumn / Fall is probably the best estimate.
I really hope we get their full realized vision this time around. I have a strong feeling they never really got around to doing what they truly wanted with crafting so far.
Honestly I don’t actually respond all that much to people anymore, but when I see Jackal doing Jackal things I just have to poke it. It’s like a sick curiosity to see where it will go, this time was honestly amazing.
there’s no point in pretending they’re going to act in good faith, they’ve already done nothing but hate on the game over a minor point. we already know all the people raging about how it “needs to fix crafting” are not going to care about anything that doesn’t hand them what they want so there’s no point in pretending they will act nice about it.
Act in good faith? They are extremely aware of the issue, I’m pretty sure it has been made loud and clear in so many different ways, so many different posts, and in so many different places, not just here. The fact you get so upset seeing people be annoyed by a massive community wide pain point is kind of suspicious. If this “Itemization” update doesn’t fix crafting then the game will remain unplayed by my friend group for another year which is probably how long it would take for this team.
You unironically log on to annoy people who want to see good healthy changes to the game, then get mad enough to be hit with suspensions when anyone pushes back. I’d love to have a real sit down with you, see what you’re actually like. Because getting that genuinely upset over people disagreeing with you online is not healthy, like at all, in any way shape or form.
Are there wacky people on here who get stark raving mad over things, absolutely. However that’s not the majority and using the nutjobs as the majority shows a clear lack of any nuance on your part. If you weren’t such an insufferable person I think people would engage with you in a far more constructive manner, we wouldn’t get screenshots of you being suspended, etc. Maybe you should get off the forum, take care of whatever is happening in your real life to cause you to act out such self destructive and isolating behaviours.
this is what i’m talking about. there is not “an issue” on their end, they feel comfortable with where crafting is now because it’s honestly in a good place for anyone not trying to make 100 percent meta-gamed builds. you’ve already decided what the game MUST do, and you don’t even play it. heck, you aren’t in their interests because you already bought the game and stopped playing. the whole forum seems to be people that don’t actually like this game, but like 40k shooters and want fatshark to dismantle the game they made for something they don’t make.
Seriously. Just…put them on ignore. I do it all the time here. You are usually the arbiter of your online experience - just block the people you want to have silenced. The only reason not to do so is if you want to have something to hate on.
You are talking absolute garbage. A good place for those not wanting meta building?
I haven’t even been able to try some builds because the RNG BS hasn’t thrown a suitable perk and blessing combination that I can work with, Of course spending 3-4 million Dockets and about 40,000 - 60,000 plasteel on absolute garbage rolls.
But then people are not hating the actually game play, it’s all the BS RNG that surrounds it, that is killing everyone’s fun, as people can’t create interesting builds or build weapons as they like… They don’t feel rewarded and like they are getting treated like mugs.
No wonder so many people stop playing the game…
But then I have seen the posts about you, you’re a bot of troll, been banned already for wishing other posters dead for having a different view from you.
there is not “an issue” on their end, they feel comfortable with where crafting is now because it’s honestly in a good place for anyone not trying to make 100 percent meta-gamed builds.
How so? Do you genuinely believe a crafting system that doesn’t incentivize people to actually engage with it good? And it doesn’t matter if the developers some how feel it’s in a good place. It’s a common pain point for their community at large, which means there is an issue with it. Anyone who has ever done any kind of game design will realize that is an issue. That means they need to step back, look at what the issues the community have, and try to find solutions to those issues.
you’ve already decided what the game MUST do, and you don’t even play it.
I haven’t decided that the game must do anything, I have set the hope and expectation that a common issue will finally be addressed. And you’re right I don’t play the game, as I have stated elsewhere, does not playing the game anymore since I refuse to subject myself to a broken system magically make my frustration any less valid?
heck, you aren’t in their interests because you already bought the game and stopped playing.
Do you actually think that? You are aware that companies are far more interested in repeat customers than constantly having to recruit new customers right? Do you think those cosmetic prices are merely a coincidence? You could buy an entire other game for those cosmetic prices.
the whole forum seems to be people that don’t actually like this game
If this your issue here? That you believe people who criticize this game hate the game entirely? I’m sure spending a lot of time trying to help something I hate so much be a better product so that I can come back and justify to myself why I should spend more money on this product. Do you even see how genuinely nonsensical your argument actually is?
Thanks for trying to help someone on the internet but I’m an oldchanner, and I don’t actually hate Jackal nor do I want them silenced. I’m actually having fun.
Don’t play game because of garbage RNG crafting that spits in the face of players, calling for change that to make the game playable and entertaining. Most valid reason of all.
The sad thing is. If fat shark had got rid of RNG BS and done something akin to what I said in a thread I started. They would have spent all their time making maps and adding content… Not wasting all their time correcting their screw up.
