Red Duplicates

How is this for an idea?:

Add Hero-Specific Okri Challenges that unlock at lvl 30, and grant special red blueprints for that classes’ weapons. Kill x amount of x with x or whatever, or win x number of legend games with x. Also, allow the subsequent breaking-down of red items into dust. Some items have multiple illusions, so the challenges could unlock only the most basic one, to keep the fancy stuff rng (or bounty board!) specific. This way we could craft/keep dupes if we want them, and have something worth using our resources on.

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I guess that’s why the PC players got to… let’s say “help” in a very long early-access beta :wink:

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Add to that: sword and shield for Kruber,2 dropping back to back. 2 fireball staffs, dropping back to back with exactly ONE vault in between. All same skin. Yeah… totally RNG.

To point it out: these are ALL drops that followed each other in very close succession, 1 to 3 vaults in between. To give more of an insight, I open vaults in bulk and it is usually like this: I get new red item in a vault, open another vault or two from the bulk, and get exactly the same item. ONE time it was with a different skin, but still same item.

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So, looks like devs doesn’t give a much attention to this problem. “Long term” as they say yesterday, so we will get tons of dupes as long as we play this game.
I hope they get theirs salary with this RNG. Huh, dreams.

I really don’t understand what exactly prevent them from make a dupe protection. Or they have so bad codebase that a few new conditions(if this do this) will break all their game, or they just don’t really mind about this.
I don’t trust them anymore since they deleted roadmap and this situation just confirm my thoughts that they don’t care. “We will take a look at your suggestions” oh ye, customers must solve problems in game which they bought, not devs.

Take a look on Larian or CD Project who make games mostly for games, and they deliver a qualitative products, and they was “indie” too.

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This answer could not have been more empty.

I get it; you got our money and we spent months beta testing your game for you so you can at least try to release a somewhat bug free version on xbone.
Yet you’ve got a bunch of people here who might not be all too inclined to buy any paid DLC or leave positive reviews for you. You are sabotaging yourself here.

You got your hands full with other stuff? No time to cater to a minority crowd shouting away about elitist problems? That’s fine. But should that be the case, say so and give us something. Address the concerns and problems brought up here! Even if it just verbally. But letting it stew in it’s own juice is just… hell, it’s a lot of things. Though at the forefront of my mind would be disrespectful.

Also, what @EdaxRerum said.

My nickname couldn’t be more relevant. I’ve got a bag of hazelnuts here and I’m friggin’ livid.

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Same for me. My first two reds were habgane with same illusion, then two bolt staves.

Get 3rd Flamestorm staff. Thank you devs. I will post everywhere about every dupe untill you fix it.

@Fatshark_Hedge, really, can you please explain what prevent you from make a dupe protection in nearest patch? It will reduce the degree of heat about this problem. An all be happy.

And another addition in my neckles collection - 7th neckle. Thank you Fatshark again.

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Oh man, at least I’ve been getting massive dupes of a useful stave. I am so sorry you have to endure that. Press F to pay respects.

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That is mega bummertown :frowning:

Thanks =)
I’ve got 2 beams/4 bolts/3 flamestorms. Yay. I want freaking mace, but about month i’ve got only jewelery dupes and staff’s dupes. But devs think that this is ok. You no need good gear, you must grind for rng. Game in general fun and interesting, but rng kills all about this feelings.

@Fatshark_Hedge, can you please provide my thanks for dev team? Really, your company whos "The developer and publisher of the award-winning and multi-million selling title Warhammer: Vermintide, a 4 player co-op game set in the Fantasy Warhammer world, as well as the upcoming title Warhammer: Vermintide 2!"© is awesome in incopmetence and devil’s attitude on your customers. No information, no good communication, “it’s on our radar”(not at this year), “soon”.

P.S. no claims for you @Fatshark_Hedge btw.

New update. Ideal drop. Thank you Fatshark.

@Fatshark_Hedge, are you satisfied? Seriously, you think it’s funny?

Been rather lucky since last patch. 4 weapon drops so far and all of them things I wanted. Though 2 of em without a red illusion <3

You know, nothing changed. Just freaking rng.

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Yep… when it’s good it’s good, when it’s bad it really sucks.

Prior to the 1.1 update I put in ~250 hours with 0 reds 0 cosmetics.

The day 1.1 went live, I got 3!!! hats and two reds (both hagbane without illusion).

Since then I’ve gotten a fairly decent spread of reds (no more hats though):
2 bolt staves
1 1h sword (sienna)
1 2h sword (kruber)
1 mace (sienna)
1 longbow (kruber)
2 necklace
2 charm
1 trinket

So I’ve gotten pretty lucky in not getting more than 2 of anything.

I think the best + easiest solution to this mess is:

  • Keep the drop rates and dupe stuff how it is
  • Add some kind of crafting/exchange system where people can exchange their reds for a red of choice
  • Add weekly challenges with rewards of specific items
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“It’s on our radar in long term. Follow us on xbawks”.

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I know. That’s why I said I was lucky :slight_smile:

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Believe me, as the proud owner of 6 (or was it 7?) Sienna daggers I understand your frustration, but repeatedly tagging Hedge with antagonizing comments probably makes him less likely to take this thread seriously. I’m sure there’s a less personal and more problem-oriented way to vent your issues.

I agree with the general sentiment though - it’s good that it is on their radar, but it is probably worth stating that it really is a big enough deal to be worth putting on an accelerated timeline, if at all possible.

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F’in rly…

So not only is this my 3rd and 4th axe, this happened after opening probably close to 100 each legend vaults and commendation chests on Saltz, for whom I desperately need reds still, before opening this one f’in vault on Bardin. To make matters worse, I’m pretty sure my last 2 non accessory red drops were the same axe, if memory serves. I have ~30 red accessories.

@Fatshark_Hedge Is this really working as intended? How can this be such a low priority? We play for a really long time to even get a weapon red drop and this kinda thing happens to us all. the. time.

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Aaaaall RNG I tell you.

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If I was rolling dice this is where I’d check the weight of them XD

The odds of this kinda thing happening so much are so improbably I refuse to believe there’s not some bs in the code.