Powersword makes Veteran better in melee than Zealot. It has insane cleave and damage. It is a weapon that makes me sigh out loud every time i see someone use it. Several times lately i have played with a Veteran (or several) on Heresy who outright refuse to use ranged and just melee everything. This alone is not an issue imo, you do you. But when one weapon makes the entire niche of several classes irrelevant, there is a problem afoot. Veteran, THE ranged class is better in melee than Ogryn and Zealot. I propose to reduce the damage of the weapon since the whole “power” in a power sword is cleaving thru stuff very easily. Also maybe add an overheat mechanic akin to the plasma gun or psyker. And i should preface this; the power-up of the sword is what makes it absurd. It is not fun to play along side a Vet using a Power Sword. You barely get to play the game in my experience. It enables players to play Heresy/Damnation who would otherwise not be able to due to “lack of skill” so to speak because anything that normally would be a threat is no longer an issue. And before any “dont nerf it just buff everything else” peeps come knocking, the issue is not that the weapon is OP per se. The issue is that it is too good at doing everything. Why would you use literally any other melee weapon available to the Vet? It renders all other weapons inferior to it. Horde incoming? Dont worry fam. Crushers and maulers giving you trouble? No worries.

Honestly, as a Vet player who got this shortly after hitting lvl 30. [image] I think Vets just shouldn’t have power swords at all. Even during lvling, as soon as I got my first one it became the best weapon no matter what rank or damager all other melee weapons were… I was surprised when I realised Zealot has nothing even close to this. Thunder Hammer is great for ST, but cleave is nothing compared to this. Only weapon that slightly come close is the Heavy Eviscerator, which is my go to, but even that is weaker than Power Sword in general. It’s bonkers.

Try out Zealot Tigrus (Dual handed chainsaw Sword) i think its best sword in game, power sword cant even come near it. also the reason everyone playing with powersword, because all other options are filled with flaws. Shovel, bad single target, its CC heavy combo is slow, the animation needs to be faster, even for its special attack, its there to stun a single target only and with low damage. Assault Chainsaw Sword “Single target” mostly , bad in CC, and yet very short to handle some special in melee.

We need a major balance pass, i’m sure the designers know, but there’s so much that it’s probably going to take a while

As a vet I stopped using power sword because it totally invalidates the melee part of the game. It allows aggressive/reckless play that wouldn’t otherwise be possible because nothing can touch you in melee.

[image] Please BALANCE weapons Gameplay Feedback Unfortunately this isn’t really an issue with the Bolter and Power Sword, they’re both surprisingly healthy weapons. The Bolter is inaccessible and very tight on ammo, the Power Sword relies on its killing power (which is far more restrained in Heresy+) to compensate and has one of its weapon statistic slots wasted with Cleaving being split in two. You can see why the above drawbacks make the weapon a real prize for the Veteran, who is designed specifically to mitigate most of them? What’s rea… This guy summed it all.

In fact, compared with the eviscerator , powersword has higher mobility and is more efficient against horde. Powersword is also good to deal with carapace enemy. Considering that veteran already have bolter, this is not really necessary.

Power Sword while “Charged” or power attack is active, yeah it got infinite cleave, but how many heavy attacks you would get? with normal finesse (as it increases attack speed) max of 2 heavy swings, with a decent finesse you would get 3 at max (not sure if you can reach 4). While Tigrus/eviscerator you got 3 good combos for CC, highest damage and best used in concentrated wave “Heavy + Light”. when horde spread out from multiple directions, go for “Push Attack + Light” or can be extended to “Push Attack + 3x Light”. As for Tigrus/eviscerator. you got huge push, higher reach, and also can deal better damage vs carapace armor, but need to spam heavy or rev it up vs heavy targets as mauler/crusher. you can 1 tap rager with heavy attack + revved up, can remove horde + armored target in horde. only 2 things i would say that power sword is better, is its cleave through armor when powered on, which even if bulwark in front of you with his shield, the sword would not damage bulwark, but still will kill every poxwalker in your swing, also that if lets say 2-3 Mauler all would be getting same damage, rather than your sword getting stuck on a single target. and second is mobility. Powersword need to be activated every 2-3 swings, unlike Tigrus/eviscerator, just spam the same combo.

Just give the powersword to the zealot instead. What I would NOT do, is nerf a fun and powerful weapon purely for the sake of making it more “in-line” with lesser weaker weapons. The game will not be made more fun by taking something fun away. Common sense needs to be employed here.

If you don’t activate any chain weapon’s special you have a serious damage penalty even doing any normal attack that ends in you chaining them. Eviscerator’s big advantage vs. the other chains is how its 1st heavy works the same empowered or not: it mows down chaff until it runs into something it can’t cleave so you can start chaining. You also need to activate it every swing and it actually exposes you to danger being locked in your chainsaw hug. If that’s your argument you literally just explained why Bunga Sword is so hilariously OP. You get 4 empowered swings with no more ending lag than usual, they just do like 4X the damage they usually do. Not only is it 1/4 the busy work of activating the special you’re spreading that damage out to multiple elites. Its not really an issue to have to hit that Crusher multiple times if you are hitting multiple Crushers per swing, spamming them out and can dodge dance freely while doing so. The power scale comparison is terrible, power sword is the best melee in the game by a mile.

In lower difficulties the eviscerator’s push-light attack combo is pretty effective, that’s true. But recently I am playing difficulty 5, it just doesn’t have enough damage and cleave to be effective against enemy hordes. In the end, Zealots have to rely on flamer to actually be useful in this situation. The advantages about the power sword are actually very very important, 1. infinite cleave 2. high damage 3. charge last 3 hits. Just imagine, give the eviscerator or any other weapon infinite cleave when charged, or make the eviscerator’s charge last 3 hit, having 2 of those 3 advantages would make a pretty strong weapon. The one thing people really need to consider is when you use the eviscerator as zealot, you have all your skills and perks to boost you damage and attack speed and impact. While veterans don’t have any of it, just rely on the raw strength of the power sword, and delete hordes like cutting paper.

Powersword makes all other melee weapons, as well as Zealot and Ogryn, irrelevant

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omar_uav December 4, 2022, 4:34pm 6

This guy summed it all.

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Powersword makes all other melee weapons, as well as Zealot and Ogryn, irrelevant

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