You’re retroactively deciding “the context” of your own post 6 weeks later. And nowhere within said post or the post it’s replying to or the post that post is replying to are player builds brought up in any way. It’d be cool if you could like, provide evidence of the context you claim your statement is about but like, providing evidence isn’t really your thing now is it.
Assail and the weapons are still cool today but surely you wouldn’t pretend like those nerfs were unwarranted at the time they happened?
Also just want to point out that VoC was buffed in patch 14 and FS later made Havoc mode which is balanced with this buff in mind 
Haven’t watched the video but I can see it’s about 20 months late to the discourse which is way too late tbh. Focusing on gold toughness now feels wrong with how much we’ve powercreeped since.
I didn’t want to argue because I genuinely have no memory of the bolter nerf outside of no auto reload with ex stance and needed someone else to confirm if Zarona revolvers were ever nerfed 
But, didn’t Assail catch an undocumented change semi-recently? Been running more off-meta psyker this week and I swear Assail used to have better tracking after its initial big nerf
I think boltgun nerfs weren’t even mentioned when it happened, I think it was patch 13 or before that. But finding the revolver nerf was pretty easy.
Apologies, I have zero memory of this nerf!
Happened a while ago, too.
It was a tracking change that’s supposed to make it more reliable but IIRC it did the opposite until they fixed it again
I can’t wait for the psyker rework where we get assails and all the cooldown skills. They’ll probably make the bubble vent peril too…
We disagree on a fundamental level that I believe stuff should feel strong, stuff that feels strong are more fun to play with (to me). I will try to cover some of your points anyway.
I didn’t see this as a problem at the time, Assail and revolver psyker felt like a different and fun playstyle, both got nerfed around the same time, I’m fine for vet and zealot, since they could get anti-armour options a plenty, but cowboy psyker just died at that point. I feel like Assail then is similar to the Cyber-Mastiff now, might feel “too good” for you guys or people that like a tougher challenge, completely dominates lower difficulties, still fun to play and not actually broken strong (bleed bug aside) like some imply, based on higher difficulties ofc.
That wasn’t necessarily the fault of the community, but it shows how quickly things can swing from one extreme to another.
I just think we should be cautious in how we frame these requests. If we push too hard or use overly dramatic language, it might lead to another overcorrection. A more measured approach, like the ammo tweak you’re suggesting (not that I fully agree with it personally) makes a lot more sense to me than what is usually suggested here.
Never said it was underperforming, I already covered how I fell about the zarona revolver above, the person I was replying to asked for examples of things that were petioned for nerfs by the community, got nerfed, then stayed nerfed, in which the Zarona fits the criteria.
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Good example of: Straw man - Wikipedia
Strawman to who? Cause that post’s got nothing to do with you.
It’s a joke based on the continuous powercreep we’re seeing and the unnecessary buffs to Scrier’s Gaze in Nightmares & Visions (assail was also buffed in that patch)
Gaslightining. Context matters.
Whether or not it was meant as a joke/sarcasm, it misrepresents the actual argument being made. Humor doesn’t excuse distortion, especially in a discussion where clarity matters.
Like you did above, “I can do the same joke”:
Can’t wait for the next patch where every weapon gets replaced with a strongly worded letter to the enemies. No damage, just emotional damage. We’ll finally achieve perfect balance when all classes are equally useless and the only viable strategy is crying in a corner while praying for mercy.
Take a step back and breathe dude, forum dwellers aren’t out to get you
just take rebreather perk and gas isn’t a problem anymore 
Ok cool but, misrepresents what argument? Because again, it’s not targeted towards you.
here, that’s me 
trying to somehow find out how youtube algorithm gives more clicks to a malice run with multiple downs but a spring break iq commentator that won’t shut up with “music” as background noise.
then again i do zealot nowadays as well (without dueling sword outta principle) and vet without plasma, don’t see that get any recognition view wise 
but hey as long as one coward since ages keeps coming back and dislikes the occasional video i know i “made it” as a “content creator” 
guess the dont like it dont watch it is a bit too far fetched, then again jealousy is a mighty thing and i remember glorious mud slings when buddy pirx and me annihilated whole lan parties yearly and made mock videos about their “propaganda guy”
as for the arbi, yeah i play him, paid for it and right now he’s 25% of my uploads instead of what people complained about before being 100% ogryn “easy mode”
the fact that it’s “my class” since beta and played him while he was “trash”, still carrying and clutching goes “wooosh” over those heads, but whatever
honestly, what matters to ME the most right now, i still perform while right now having my immune system totally shut off, waiting for a stem cell replacement(?), renewal(?) heck some medstation mumbo jumbo so the c4ncer cells go into 10+year hibernation hopefully after 7 months of chemo clearing the bone marrow good.
so next couple of weeks, those who enjoy the videos, expect a more stretched upload schedule, cant record while being in hospital.
havoc 40 my ass, that’s “hard mode” 
C’mon man, hyperbolic extrapolation of the recent FS “balancing” trend for cynical comedic effect (and out of exasperation) is neither straw-manning nor gaslighting. Don’t be like that.
Now here’s a lad earning extra rashuns! Doing your duty to emprah even when sick 
thanks mate, sincerely appreciated 
to be fair it keeps me going, actively fighting against at least cognitive capability reduction.
something about quick reflex stuff that keeps your brain on edge even when fogged by meds.
physically not much one can do. remember days when i did dips with 40kg plates strapped with chains to my waist, now i huff going upstairs to my gaming room.
BUT positive ending is in sight, hard-core cleansing incoming to “put a lid on it” as my medicus explained.
(that’s when I’ll be recording “less” cause even if i brought my pc, can’t do much with tubes in each arm)
grinding my teeth for the emprah and hopefully after that working on rebuilding the body than destroying the targeted cells, which always has the rest as collateral damage as well.