I am dying for a report player option in the game. I don’t know why you would launch a game in the year of our lord 2022 and not have a report player option in game. The report player function that currently exists is not only cumbersome but honestly a joke. Also I don’t understand how some people are getting away with naming their characters actual slurs in game or how they can just type slurs into team chat and not be insta-banned??? I don’t know whats wrong with the community as of late but not only will they be racist/sexist/homophobic with their character name but also in team chat, its been happening more and more frequently. I’m sure you’re busy with the new itemization system but this needs to roll out before, if not, then with that update. I haven’t even discussed how some people will be verbally abusive over team chat or voice.
If you have the chat filter turned off, you shouldnt complain about seeing those things.
expletives are not equivalent to hate speech
While I agree, personally I have to say report-worthy behaviour has been so rare for me I’ve just used Fatshark’s own service for it:
https://support.fatshark.se/hc/en-us/requests/new
What does the filter - something used for expletives (ie. swearing) - have to do with anything here?
Just use the Mute and Block functions (hopefully your Blocked list isn’t full yet).
‘Report player’ options aren’t all that they’re cracked up to be. People misuse them all the time. E.g. tons of idiots would report other players that aren’t playing exactly the way they want them to, and their excuse would be ‘It’s a team game ! Whine whine whine’.
But nothing beats Blocking a Knife-Stealth-Loner Zealot who only knows how to run around and doesn’t kill anything and ignores teammates until they’re already dead.
honestly, i believe that we should have an option to report players for things that they say in chat, i believe that text and voice chat being disabled can hinder the team as pinging isn’t good for conveying complex thought or anything like that, its only really good for saying “i need ammo!” or “i need health!” or “FLESH BAG!” and can’t convey something like “i’m looking for the martyrs skull” or “don’t pick me up, i wanna cheese on overwatch” so yes, we should get a system that allows for reporting offensive language and names when it happens.
yes, i did say offensive names, i once saw a guy with a name that was literally calling himself a pedo and one that was racist, its best that these are reported so that they don’t happen.
“Hate speech” ohhhh, it all makes sense now.
Solution? Get over it. I promise you, those mean words on a screen are not going to hurt you.
It’s like naming your character “c@ncer” in a pvp game and then whenever you kill someone it says “player X killed by c@ncer”. It’s really immature, uncalled for, and is disrespectful to people who actually lost loved ones to c@ncer.
I can see where you are coming from. At the end of the day, it’s about respecting each other and our experiences in life. Having said that, I would be against banning that kind of stuff. Humor is obviously subjective and if people want to make immature, hurtful jokes…I think that should be allowed or at least not completely banned.
being called an “f-slur” and a “tard” is though.
I dont mean to sound insensitive here, but they’re just words in textform in a video game. To let them have enough power over you that they drive you to make a post like this probably means you need to reevaluate how you relate to this kind of speech. Whilst I sympathise with people who have gone through traumatic things that may be triggered, for lack of a better word, by certain words and types of speech, they only have as much power over you as you let them ultimately. Censorship is never a good solution to these problems. The best thing you can do is just to make sure you’re not adding to the problem because that’s the only thing you have any real control over.
The instances that really get me are the sexual harassment. It hasn’t happened often, but I’ve played enough female characters in this game to have definitely seen it.
In mission, it usually involves someone grabbing a stim, then running up to you and rapidly spamming the button to pull it out, making it look like masturbation. Which, it’s immature, but whatever; you don’t become a female gamer without getting used to randos having the humor of people just hitting puberty (“It kinda looks like something naughty; tee-hee!”) … But it reaches a whole different level if it’s accompanied by them saying something creepy as HECK in chat.
All of which can be done using words which don’t trip the profanity filter. Easily.
But I’ve had it happen most often on the Mourningstar. It’s gotten to the point where I have an instinctive distrust of people with the full-face skull tattoo, because three times, I’ve had different people with that tattoo run up to me while I’m doing inventory management and say some things that are truly vile. (Which I will not repeat out of good taste). All because I play a female character who is tall and was made using the least-homely facial options I could find.
(Side note: it’s also happened with people who don’t have that tattoo, and I’ve seen people with that tattoo who were fine. But after you’ve had it happen more than once, it makes you wary.)
I’ve heard people say, “It’s just words; it can’t harm you.” But I can only imagine the visceral, gut response that would hit a person if this happened to someone who actually had suffered sexual assault.
This isn’t a Slaaneshi game; people should have no reason to expect that. And in the year of 2024, there’s no reason to expect a game wouldn’t have built-in tools to deal with that sort of behavior. Thank goodness for the “block” button, but I’ve experienced enough to feel there really should be a “report” option as well.
Can we report players for being really bad at the game and still joining auric missions expecting to be carried?
I mean I care more about that because it’s ruining the game way more then some stupid edgy names used by teenagers.
Like who cares, you probably never see them again?
Again though, whilst I can sympathise that that would be an unpleasant feeling, it isn’t hurting you. We all carry our own bagage of all kinds, but no matter how horrible our own experiences may be, we can’t make other people who have no connection to it accountable for how it affects you.
This isn’t me condoning people acting poorly or being dopes in general. But the truth remains that tying your emotional state to the words and opinions of othes, especially strangers, is a form of harm one commits on oneself.
Really doesn’t matter how you think people should react or what you feel is appropriate or not, having a reporting system in-game (whether it’s going to be abused is irrelevant since reports should obviously be investigated if there are a number of reports to the same account) is just a way to improve the player experience overall; additionally, tie the garbage block system with it so that after the report it auto-blocks the player in the event that someone was “being sensitive,” they at least don’t have to deal with that player again.
The fascinating thing is, if all the really selfish, cruel, obnoxious people got time outs… we wouldn’t miss them. By and large, those are not people who are going to play the game well, consider the needs of their team, handle objectives, etc.
In a game like this, antisocial behavior is a great indicator for poor performance, simply because of how mechanically social the game itself is.
On top of which… yeah, when playing this game, you have a right to expect not to be harassed. This isn’t a case of “not allowed to do some normal thing because some people have heightened sensitivity to it”. Harassment isn’t an acceptable behavior that’s being unfairly suppressed, it’s not a right, and it reasonably should have consequences.
First I want to say I’m replying to you because I remember your name from many topics as a reasonable person whose posts I’ve enjoyed reading. So I’m not looking for a confrontation or an argument, simply dialogue and to offer my PoV. 
Hate speech is different from expletives or just general crass behaviour. It targets minorities and discriminated people or even individuals specifically, and is used with the express intent to abuse, harm, and cause distress. Irl hate speech can be a criminal offense depending on circumstances, and either way it’s very likely to get you fired or disciplined in your work or school.
So it’s a serious issue, and the harm or distress it can cause in members of said discriminated groups is very real. While they might just be words in a videogame, isn’t rl verbal abuse and bullying also just noise? Yet I sincerely hope no-one here is ignorant about what all that can lead to, when people who are already struggling are driven to the brink. … Sadly it’s not as easy as all that to ignore, especially for those most vulnerable.
My point is that it’s not about me, you, or the OP. It’s about others. Reporting these a-holes is about standing up against what’s wrong, to at least try to make the world a bit safer and better for those who already deal with enough. That’s all. And that, to me, is something I expect of anyone with basic human decency.
That’s a fair point and I don’t disagree with any of that.
That’s all speculative and generalized talk though. We don’t know that that’s actually true.
I mean I agree with that, of course, but how do we decide what’s harassments and what isn’t and who decides it? These are valid questions. One persons harassment is another’s joke and vice versa. We should not be so quick to think any of us are capable of doling out justice competently. Sometimes it’s better to acquiesce to the fact that we can not fight the issue on any front other than the one that exists within ourselves. Like I said, make sure you’re not part of the problem and the rest is out of your hands.
Ditto! And worry not, I take no offense or feel particularly under attack.
I don’t disagree but it’s also true that things like hate speech laws are notoriously tricky to legislate and enact. It’s murky and grey to no end when it comes to people expressing themselves and then others interpreting their expression. All manner of miscommunication and misunderstandings can and do occur all the time. Things of that nature have a tendency to work themselves out over time whereas genuine hate speech tends to be sort of systematic or recurring and less likely to cease organically. But then again, is there really that much of that happening in Darktide? Maybe and maybe I’ve just missed it, but it’s hard for me to imagine it being a considerable issue.
I went through a phase of bullying in my youth, so I have firsthand experience. And you’re right of course, but the thing is, so am I. It’s a hard thing to go through and shedding the layers of shame and whatever else that naturally stack on top of your self-perception is hard but it is ultimately, however unfair it truly is, each persons cross to bear. I’m now 30 years old and I think I can say I healed from my experience, but if I had put my energy into trying to make others not remind me of how I felt about myself instead of changing how I felt about myself, I doubt I’d be able to say that today. Look I really do understand that it sucks to have to live with that kind of baggage, but we can not look outside of ourselves for the medicine for it if we truly want to get past it. As with almost any mental struggle in life, the self is usually the biggest obstacle.
I understand this impulse and at a previous point in my life I would’ve said the same thing. I agree, of course, that we should be kind and patient with those who struggle. But at the same time, if the ones who struggle would like to one day not struggle, they need to find the strength within themselves to overcome their past experiences. Both can be true at the same time.
Ultimately this is all a pretty abstract conversation about how to deal with unpleasant people, feelings and memories. Just to be clear, I’m not against a report function. Sometimes I think it can be justified, but I think it’s worth reminding people that this can be a slippery slope and sometimes the stoic approach is the more healthy one.
Either way, I understand both sides of this and I think they both make sense, but it’s important to consider them both, regardless of which one you come at the issue from.
This is the typical case when someone feels specifically targeted for something that has nothing to do with you. Stim pull is something everyone does because it looks ridiculous and that’s it.
exactly, we need a report system in game so that people that sexually harass or scream racist stuff or play earrape or even make people fee unsafe in game need to be reported and dealt with so that they don’t bring the game down. the whole thing about a hobby is that its meant to be something that gets you away from real life and makes you not remember the BS we deal with daily.
We are all rejects….