Sorry, but it’s the sad truth award. So cool to abuse flag system to remove other people’s messages.
Only bad players can say that some other players are bad?
Doesn’t seem like the truth to me.
Only bad players are constantly complaining about others instead of analyzing their mistakes and improving in the game. Not the first thread like this and it’s the same people over and over.
Your message overall is braindead wrong(bad players turning what I expect to be typical chill auric damnation run into a true solo 5 minutes into the run is not my fault) but I agree that “Flawless” is a subpar player.
Poor soul can’t handle true solo…
poor soul can’t understand playing random true solo(on top of that, actually playing it out as true solo can result in votekick) is a chore when others just want to grind some resources
the most useful thing you plebs can do is grab resources for me, and even then you suck at it
Calm down, child
its fine just makes me look like more of a chad
Maybe its unfair but i always assume they are console boys lol
sit down, adults are talking
there’s no adults in this forum. the CM’s are like 13, most of the posters are 8, i think there’s a couple 15 year olds trying to find groups to play with, but general is a daycare.
My man, did you heard about multitasking? It ain’t that hard to complain while analyzing own mistakes.
Ah yes, more excuses. People simply can’t admit they have no place on (auric) damnation.
To err is human, to blame someone or something else for it is human nature…what happened to common sense and taking responsibility? “NEVER YOU MIND…It ain’t good askin’ questions like that…”
Or you can analyze your own mistakes during the overall analysis AND also realize that some people are not even remotely close to being to being ready for the hardest content, it’s not a mutually exclusive choice and a tired cliché.
If you’re actually trying to improve, say moving from regular damnation to aurics, being saddled with 1 or more malice-level players is an artificial barrier and a variable an average player shouldn’t have to contend with.
It’s a perfectly legitimate gripe and one that should have been mitigated ages ago.
I hear you, perhaps I could clear the air… First, I think you’re misreading the tone of the conversation. Sure, “optimal setups” often lead to better performance, and that’s not being disputed. The issue is more about how that message is delivered and the assumptions being made. Cosmo has been vocal about players using Steam Decks and speakers, labeling it as “selfishness,” which takes the conversation beyond a simple observation into judgment.
I recognize the need for better hardware. I’m all for advocating for people to get better setups to shine better in the match. The point’s been addressed. However, I think how we talk about the people using suboptimal hardware and our behavior to them is just as important. The frustration is understandable, but calling players “selfish” for their choices in a multiplayer game feels more like gatekeeping than constructive criticism. What if the focus was less on what’s lacking and more on how we can help? That’s where the conversation could shift to actually benefiting the community at large.
I’ve been taught that when disparaging others, one tends to project their own insecurities so they don’t have to face them. I’m trying really hard to just focus on myself. Others? Not so much, because I can always find ways that I can improve. Thus the saying goes “before talking about others, look in the mirror.”
This saying is tried and true, not because of what it explicitly says, but the benefit implied. If one spends as much time as they do disparaging others for what they lack, one could spend that much time focusing on themselves and how they can improve. It’s easier to point the finger at someone else because it requires no work. But working on one’s self? That takes work.
It has - one can find friends to consistently play with to make a strike team. In your bouts of quick play solo queue, take note of who’s doing what they should. Talk with them, get to know them, and add each other.
This way, you can control who you play with and the skill level of those you play with.
By Grandma? Did she teach you any other idioms? Maybe something about a daily apple or dormant canines. It’s a nice saying but it’s not a true one at least half the time. It’s painfully obvious when this is true, crazy people at some insanely weird bigoted political rally for instance.
Yeah, we do, any sensible person does and takes that into account.
And after you’re done looking in the mirror, what then? Can you then make some informed observations about the game or are there more hoops to jump through, maybe something involving limericks.
Awesome suggestion that a few do to jump over the artificial barriers they shouldn’t have to.
Maybe some of those “artificial barriers” should follow Grandma’s advice, “don’t bite off more than you can chew” or something about leeches, the onus should be on them not on the people they subject their presence to.
Honestly, all these meaningless kumbaya replies serve no purpose other than to provide a smokescreen for the difficulty tourists and to make the replier seem “enlightened”, like some old church goers tsk-tsk-ing regular folk.
There’s an objective quantifiable truth in most if not all things, it’s ok to point it out even if feelings get hurt, no gas-knighting required.
I think the truth here is that in-game performance matters, the gas comes from blaming hardware. It’s the ole console vs. PC shebang all over again… it always boils down to: ‘it’s a factor but some can play well despite it, power to them, the rest can kick rocks’.
IMO the human aspect is more interesting, because the way you feel and process that into reaction can matter a lot in game. I’ve had a lot of matches where the line between a good time and a bad time was a good sense of humour.
More tangibly, I’ve seen players respond positively to people who are straight-up or even (gasp) nice about providing pointers. Things that might seem bloody obvious like could ya not shoot bursters next to your team mate thx! It’s not a silver bullet, but when it works it works and we can all just get back to what we’re here for.
On the other hand abuse just sends the whole experience spiraling downwards (I mean just look at this thread), so I think it’s not too ‘knightly’ to call that out in the hopes that we can be a bit more positive to each other. Tragically optimistic, I know
Once again you are putting word into my mouth and making major assumptions. I find it interesting how someone makes a post telling others why there might be more sub-par players than they might of originally thought and you somehow interpret it as me being upset.
As I just said in previous posts - I could care less who is on my team. I carry fresh level 30’s just as I carry level 500’s, it makes absolutely no difference and I have NEVER talked down to someone for their performance. I made this post, and this is the THIRD time saying this, so people could be aware there are other reasons besides them just being “bad”, its not always black and white.
Edit: This entire interaction only reinforces why people have this witch hunt mentality with scoreboards. I literally made a simple post just to make people more aware that people playing with less than ideal playstyles isn’t black and white and I get called upset, angry, toxic, and other things. People just want a simple scoreboard to see their score? “You’re toxic, you just want to compare yourself to others, if you were good you wouldn’t need to see score” same exact energy.
What I’m saying is, that it seems you’re still focused on what others should or shouldn’t do, rather than what you can control. At the end of the day, you can’t change the setups or choices of other players - whether they’re using a Steam Deck or playing without headphones. What you can control is how you respond and adapt in a team setting, like @Frish mentioned above. The suggestion to find like-minded players isn’t about kumbaya - strange that you’d call it that; it’s about taking agency over your experience instead of being held hostage by frustrations over other people’s choices.
If pointing out flaws is cathartic for you, then that’s fine. It solves nothing, but the real challenge isn’t in identifying what others could do differently; it’s in adjusting your approach to navigate those circumstances. So, the question becomes - what are you going to do about it?
Like I said earlier, one option is to put a tag that reads #vent or #rant on it.
I understand that your post was intended to bring awareness to why some players might struggle with less-than-ideal setups, and you’ve reiterated multiple times that you’re not upset. However, I think part of the issue is that by singling out Steam Deck users and players without headphones, the post comes across as calling out select groups while leaving out other, perhaps more common reasons why players might underperform—like unfamiliarity with the mechanics or new content.
Thanks for your clarifying your stance, but when you emphasize these specific factors, it can come off as reductive in such a way that doesn’t reflect the broader context. It’s important to acknowledge that there’s a mix of factors at play, and focusing on certain setups could potentially be seen as disingenuous or overly simplistic.
You’ve made your point clear, and I’ll leave it at that.
This ain’t VT2 (VT2MentionCounter++), this is a rarity in DT and usually it’s “FU”, with one segment of the player base being particularly immune to the nicest and friendliest of advice.
I’m normally a crazy optimistic person, but I’m also not (as) naive, especially when it comes to online gaming and this game in particular.
I’ve learned, the hard way, that after 4|5 carrots it’s time for stick, and sometimes the stick needs to come out earlier.
“Pweeze pwetty please stop blowing poxbusters on the team”, “Hey if you’re not too busy, can you help cover the event, it’s impossible to do solo”, “please pull out your melee and dogde/push/block once in a while” usually won’t get you very far in DT.
You can say it once for the margin of error but fool me thrice, shame on me. Some gamers (lowercase g) only seem to understand things when stated forcefully, and at some point the community needs to police itself and not reward bad behavior.