Ogryn and vet have some of the worst penance design and they kinda encouraging suboptimal play/griefing if its ogryns nuking hoards or vets making any game vent purge modifier it gets a bit annoying to either do or be around.
taunting 1000 enemies for example beyound annoying same for heavy hitter
gonna agree half way, the hitting part was okay-ish since its in my base playstyle anways, taunting felt off since it animates you to jump into pools of em to get them numbers.
only thing that annoys me greatly is the “dakka” part.
yeah it can give you a chuckle, especially if you got a very gratious team lending you some bullets.
but the whole kill x while effect is on screams wasting ammo into hordes, i feel dirty doing that, sorry sah.
Heavy hitter is absolutely awful, the rest are pretty doable just through normal gameplay.
I found the heavy hitter one to be trivial, just took like 6 or 7 auric maelstroms which I was doing anyway for other penances. I guess it helps to use the krourk IV knife since it has such good cleave stats. MK5 shovel and shield also have excellent heavy hordeclear for this.
The FNP one is even easier, completable in a couple games by just kickback spamming, which is coincidentally the best way to use FNP anyway.
Someone did the math on the lucky bullet one though, and even with ogryns fastest firing weapon it seriously takes like 60 minutes of non stop firing. Kinda stupid
taunting I thoroughly enjoyed, I like putting the pressure on the character you need to try to die with and putting that bulk to work. but the lucky bullet one was terrible for me since that keystone is still garbage and almost worthless for improving your overall ranged damage. even just keeping heavy hitter’s brutish momentum up all game will give you more use than anything on that side, because it boosts the attack speed of guns as well. total trap and waste of nodes. also there’s rending on elite kills which ogryn guns excel at mowing down. please do something about the gunlugger side not really existing without a bug.
The new lucky bullet is genuinely incredible on ripperguns, since one proc will proc it for the whole burst, and flechette is incredibly powerful with the high crit chance via lucky bullet. Can’t really finish the penance with them unfortunately, unless you wanna play 50 missions for it
The taunt penance is no issue at all.
It teaches you to use the ability in a way that makes sense.
With regular use of the ability, this penance clears faster than average for a class penance.
If you do melee only maelstrom, or play with dog modifier, it is even faster.
The heavy hitter one is badly balanced.
It requires the same number of heavy attack kills, as the penance for the aura.
Except the heavy hitter penance only counts your own heavy attack kills and requires you to be at 5 stacks.
This one should be changed to also count light attack kills, since heavy hitter boosts melee damage in general, and can be refreshed with light attacks. There is no reason to limit it to heavy attack kills.
Lucky bullet penance is bs, because it requires ~60min of continuous fire with the fastest firing gun, to complete.
The number of required procs should be reduced by 20-30%.
come on now crabwalk-Vet was way worse.
The balance is a bit off on some of them Vet and ogryn mostly
the toughnes regen aura one done in half a Auric maelstrom game and some are waaaay to long.
I kinda like them as a way to test stupid builds but some of them really overstays their welcome and make u grind the most boring builds.
2500 kills with 10+ stacks of marksman’s focus
Just f-ing kill me. I know it’s easy to get just by taking a mk5 IAG and spraying hordes at head level, but that’s about as fun as watching paint dry…
That one actually lets you get melee kills. You can more or less play wep specialist vet without wep specialist, just blast one enemy in the head and you get 6 seconds of moving and meleeing the horde freely
Personally I’d appreciate it if FS could waste no more time on peripheral achievement nonsense and focused on fixing the myriad bugs, balance (crafting changes included), and content.
This stuff got a whole update dedicated to it it can go on the backburner now thanks.
just crab walk the whole mission, they really gotta add as solo mode so people(me) dont grief missions by spamming sheet or wasting resources
Oddly, Lucky Bullet was recommended in the launcher pinned build guides…and still is ! Now updated for last patch the pinned guide is.
What happened to that stealth vet pinned build that was apparently causing all the vet to run off and stealth to try and force raking fire? Is it still there?
Eh I don’t need to remind you of all people the penance designers ain’t the ones fixing bugs, then again it likely eats at QA resources so, yeah, I guess you’re right and I agree!
Hel, I’ll fix the typo bugs for free cough close range cough. I’ll even pay FS for the privilege, what’s 5$ CAD in Swedish Berry Bucks?
FWIW if you have a a 2nd PC (can be done w/ cloud iPad or VMs prob) you can fire up another DT and dual box it that way, I have an MS Gamepass account so I played with myself. You heard me.
That’s a lol from me chief.
More seriously yeah I assume there’s some crossover at least in implementing changes into the code but maybe I’m wrong and working on this stuff further sucks 0 resources from other more pressing issues but I doubt it.
I’d just like to see a patch that actually makes me excited to play the game, fingers crossed for this mythical itemisation rework.
or use many more try mod. just press R to grab a server, come back like 4 hours later and then replay it without having people join but it still being ranked. or use their website to pull a recently off the board mission, you have to manually type it in unless some tech wizard is here to tell me how to import text in game… they have a great organizer for doing map specific things. fat shark intends to kill this for some reason and still not give us private servers so I want people to enjoy it while its here.
you can just copypaste it into the chat box on the morning star
I am currently doing them, and I agree. 1k elite/specials taunted is a lot of taunts. It doesn’t teach you how to use it properly either, it just teaches you to spam it to get the penance done.
The 4.5k lucky bullet penance is also a major pain in the ass and is probably taking me one or two dozen missions to do, and thats with the biggest and most spammy machine gun I can get my hands on. I couldn’t even fathom doing this penance with anything but one of the heavy stubbers.
A quick tip I can offer for the 4.5k lucky bullet one is that you don’t need to hit anything with it. You can shoot at a wall and you’ll still get credit for each lucky bullet. A bit silly, but hey.
Also, Orthus Offensive (Twins) on ~Sedition is a good way to get a lot of free ammo and no other players around to spam those shots.