Just done a game with 3 flamers, 1 psycher, 2 priest, T5 normal : L.O.L
But we see some that wanted the PS nerf say, noooo noooo plzzzzz not flamer it’s not OP 
bro, you are the saltiest, most petty person I have seen since the FoK forums.
you mean the variant MK VId, the fast shooting one.
the one that shots too fast that the enemy dances from the amount of light but no one dies.
with a very low accuracy also.
from all Recon lasgun, only MK II is the good one. MK VId, shots very fast but too weak, even at diff 1 cant do much, the weapon wastes lot of ammo, and its laser dont overpenetrate. makes it bad even vs crowds.
MK VIIa does decent damage but wastes 2 ammo per shot, uses lot of ammo.
Down with the Boltguns and Flamers
To hell I say! No one stood up for Psykers when we got rofled stomped! Ogryn’s were always terribad so, they sort of deserve a buff.
That has been always been the case.
“Nerf everything that I feel is OP and makes my main class look bad”
but when it’s their turn to evaluate their own Class and gear “my class and weapons are not OP if you don’t agree with me, you are [insert insults].”
I mean, I’m a vet with a PowerSword and I’m an advocate for nerfing it.
The opposite attitude is also true “I enjoy this, so don’t nerf it even when it’s OP. What about X instead? That’s OP too…”
It’s biases from all angles and no side is worse than the other. In the end we are all different with different perspectives, which is why discussion is a good thing to have.
I’m a zealot main for solo or pugs, I think the flamethrower range is too far.
I also think flamethrower is a bit powerful.
TBH, This whole topic should read “Now that the powersword has been nerfed, I would like to request the statistics of weapons use on the people who wanted it nerfed, so we can nerf whatever it is they liked.”
Welcome to the online game community where demanding nerfs is far easier than reflecting on your own skills.
There’s a good reason why millions left WoW and the number of players is still dropping now after Paladin nerfs, then Warriors nerfs then Death Knights got the worst nerfs.
Guildwars 2 and FF14 online are the only online games that didn’t listen to people throwing tantrums demanding nerfs, relying on numbers instead, and still gaining new players.
Honestly after playing heresy high intensity I think the flamer is overrated. Maybe that changes in damnation. Sure, you can kill hordes with it but its slow and has 0 range. Hordes are easily killed by a chainsword and using the boltgun is vastly superior for elites. With a boltgun I can take down 2 reapers in about 2-3 seconds.
To me it doesn’t make sense to use a flamer for hordes on a class that already has great horde clear on their melee and is meant to melee.
That being said it’s a shortranged weapon exclusive to a class made to be in short range and melee. This is different than a sniper/ranged class having an exclusive very strong melee weapon like the powersword. If anything, nerf the boltgun not the flamethrower. I see zero reason to use any other gun on a zealot than a boltgun.
Also its worth noting the powersword was barely nerfed. It went from like infinite cleave to 8-12 i think, thats still a ton of enemies. Despite what people seem to think its not the “best melee weapon” its the best all around melee weapon because its effective on elites and hordes. I would still rather have a chainsword than use the powersword on my zealot. I don’t need to active the chainsword constantly for it to be effective.
If a weapon trivialize a game across it’s highest difficulties, to such a degree that it renders everything else obsolete, then it it requires a nerf. Acting as if this is just “gamers whining” is complete and utter bull.
The Power Sword and the Boltgun both trivialize the game to such a degree that it isn’t even funny… There is literally no reason to bring any other weapons for a Vet. This isn’t fixed by making everything else better. Yay, now we just have all weapons trivializing the game, that’s so fun. No, the fun comes in overcoming adversity.
The hilarious part is that you think Guild Wars 2 and FF14 hasn’t nerfed when people have called for them. They have, on many occasions.
I think it should do way less damage against elites. Its fine as trash remover, but it is really kinda strange that you can remove elites as easy with it as the trash. It should by no means have overheat, we have already enough suffered from this stupid mechanic in the tide games, no need to put it on another weapon. Oh i have casted to many spells, i need to die now. Sorry fatshark, but how maso do you have to be … xD
You must be playing a different version of Guild Wars 2 and FF14 not from this world then.
Also, nice soft attempt to say “Naah my is not OP, your is op NERF!”
I dont know about that, the buffed hellbore can oneshot ogryns to the head on damnation difficulty, as a veteran ofc, and has a lot better handling, mag size and is better for dueling ranged mobs.
Bolter is more of a weapon you pull out when you absolutely need to delete a couple of things, i enjoy using it on my zealot if im using the combat knife.
Fairly certain it may do that on a Reaper, 'cos they ain’t wearing carapace on their head, but I doubt it’s one shotting a Crusher or Bulwark.
It’s also only a single shot that has to be charged, whereas you feel like a missile launcher with the accuracy of a recon lasgun on Boltgun that melt Ogryn’s, hordes, elites, specials and monstrocities on Damnation.
Boltgun is getting nerfed… Power Sword will get a nerf towards elites… Even I can acknowledge that when playing Veteran… They’re far too powerful, they may be powerful in the lore, but that’s because GW wants to sell their books to sweaty sci-fi nerds. Doesn’t mean Darktide should be completely trivialized. Is it fine that they’re strong? Yeah! Against certain things.
Two shot Crushers to the head with ult up.
One shot Reapers, and bulwarks with ult up, bulwarks being a bit more tricky since you either gotta wait for a stagger, get an angle while a team mate is fighting it, or bait an attack and then shoot him in the head when he drops the block pose.
Requires a bit more finesse than the boltgun, but has other advantages that makes up for it.
Edit: Its more of a playstyle choice when it comes to picking between the two guns for veteran i think.
But again, it requires you to charge it, you only get to do one shot. That is vastly different from just unloading a missile barrage in their general direction which is what the Boltgun does.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Vets on Hellbores, but those are exceedingly rare, because the Boltgun is simply… faster and better and doing the same thing, but works on… everything? A horde coming? Unload a missile barrage. A bunch of elites coming? Unload a missile barrage… A monstrocity? Unload a missile barrage and wipe out 30% of the HP…
And when you have a gun that can melt everything, there’s a problem with the balance of the gun.
In a vacuum the difference is that a helbore can do in one or two shots what a bolt gun might take close to a full mag to do, at least on zealot, which is something to take into consideration as well since the bolter is not just used by veterans, and a reduction in efficiency will hit other classes harder.
The charge time on the helbore is not that long unless you have bottom tier charge stat, snapping off two shots is not an issue once you get used to the gun, its not like the plasma gun.
The helbore also does pretty decent damage when just spam fired, so it has other utility as well, like dueling ranged mobs if that is something you wish to do.
We can argue semantics for ages, but the point i am trying to make is that the bolter has a lot of drawbacks, slow handling, weird single shot recoil pattern, slow reload, low ammo pool. Also its efficiency starts dropping somewhat in heresy and damnation, which does not help with the ammo consumption.
Also, i personally dont spend to much ammo mag dumping into a horde, i would rather just melee the horde and not get caught out without ammo in my gun so when the inevitable special spawn happens i can just create space from the horde im fighting, delete the special with the bolter and then go back to killing the horde with melee.
Engaging large groups of ranged mobs is also somewhat lacking in efficiency in terms of kill speed and ammo consumption, sure, you can mag dump a group to get them off your back for a bit, or try to single shot them while getting flinched, but you are probably not gonna kill everything, and now you gotta crouch behind cover to reload while the other group of ranged is not dead or suppressed, or rush in to finish off the mobs and then deal with the reload afterwards.
Being a bit of a compulsive reloader, i feel i pretty much spend 30% of a mission just reloading the bolter, if i see a couple of ranged mobs i would rather just slide my ass over there and stab them than fire two shots with the bolter and then reload the damn thing.
But thats just me, i tend to play veteran with more of a melee focus in general, and especially if i am using the bolter, i mostly only pull out the gun if i need to delete a special or elite.
I personally dont feel the bolter is to powerful, sure its very good, but like i talked about above, i feel it has enough drawbacks to balance it out. It does a lot of damage, yes, but it is burst damage, other weapons are better at providing higher overall dps during a run.
Wich bolter, the gold one 500+ with monster rols perk/bless ? Or the majority of ~450 with at least 2 crap stats and trash base stat with you never down an armored ogoryn in t5 spending all your mag in ?
Ppls cry for nerf or buff anysh*t cause they are casual players and dont understand the game at all.
Anyway, here is an ironic respond to FS about the power sword who has been too much nerfed cause of disgusting community.
Just to point, that feedback isnt feedback anymore but complaining system for casual players, caus HERE you will see 85% garbage player who just wanna the game turn like they would like it be whithout understanding anything, without really playing, without hardtrying and go into the depth of the gameplay.
And the majority ppls who game in silence will suffer that ! It’s absolutly anormal !
How many complainers have spent 250+ h on only 1 class, playing regulary at T5, with a good team,
How many of em are maybe 12years old
How many of em are trolls
… ?
FS got to think about that befor killing this wonderfull game
And if ppls are better than evry other, they really should take their balls and develop the game of the century.
Best regards. 
Anyway, they nerfed the PS insteed of flamer cause flamer was already so much better than BS. Communityyyyyyyyyyyy.