Mods that should be base game (?)

there’s comp darktide? what’s it like, how to join

Lack of guarantee weapon swap is the only one that loses me health in game.

I have already developed muscle memory for it and I think the game will work when I select a weapon and then it doesn’t.

… Did you just take a 15 minute pause in posting as evidence you silenced them with your “facts and logic”? Holy moly please genuinely log off and go touch grass that’s crazy.

So then clearly you understand the potential problems some mods can pose to gameplay integrity. So why are you here so determined to holistically defend mods? Clearly you must agree some cross the line if you’d ban them in your comp server?

dude he’s a top ten EU player, if he says sound doesn’t work it doesn’t. nevermind working yourself into a confirmation bias only playing with massive crutches and having all ability to parse data ebb away from yourself. it just doesn’t work.

and spidey sense works even when the audio is not playing, which many people have shown hundreds of times, so if its not a huge advantage then clown music. you guys are parodies of yourself and move the goal posts constantly on what you’re even arguing, so no I really don’t have anything more to say than you than just laughing at your ego, then also the fact that you consider many cheating mods to be fair game BECAUSE you’re that large of a jobber that you can’t see that no, the game isn’t broken 100% of the time or even close to it, which doesn’t give you license to cheat 100% of the time in response. like why do I even need to post that, your cope is invalid.

lmao top 10 EU player

Mein gods, das irony!

You just have to loudly declare it in a room full of people, like bankruptcy.

also I’m pretty sure he agrees with me when he posts that in his top 10 EU community there are many mods that they don’t consider healthy for the game or competitive

Is that not admitting there are tons of cheat mods, or are we just not wanting to put spidey sense in that category out of pure cope? I mean its even on the current banlist of the top 10 EU players, so obviously its a problem. The authority he is appealing to put that on their rules, end of discussion! The council of competitive darktide has spoken.

i’m top 10 in eu too but they’re not inviting me to the comp darktide disc because then one of them can’t be top 10 anymore

WHAT!? They BANNED a clear accessibility mod? What a bunch of EU coastal elite ableists !111!

But what happens if a sound might not play in that one spot at that exact moment a special is there and you’re at the other spot? Or a packet gets lost in the aether? Or a stray cosmic ray hits their non-ECC RAM?

And yet here you are STILL carrying water for a cheaty mod that YOUR authority deemed verboten. Ah it must have been banned to not subject the user to the radar’s “clutter”.

game’s fault?

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i’m one of the owners there and if it’s not currently whitelisted it is cause of me since i don’t have bias, unlike you. you can join and check by yourself? but again, you just trying to mock and talking about hearsay like the other guy. i don’t even know if i should take you seriously at this point. my issue it always been with your logic and approach and your incoherency. since you published mods that can be easily considered cheaty and not actually accessibility or qol mods. yet you consider them fair and balanced under your subjective opinion

LOL wut !?

Lies. You’re just butthurt that people actually called you cheaters and simps out and just pull stuff out of the aforementioned bruised butts to suit your narrative. I cannot keep track of all the shifting goalpost from just today. Maybe AI can help? Is there a mod for that?

More lies, verifiable and disprovable, and still you haven’t addressed it. You could have gone to check for yourself at ANY time in the last couple of years. Unless you think I somehow h4x0red Nexus? Are you upset that I didn’t credit you ? Because I did! I’ll go add your name to it.

Hel, you can go right now! I’ll wait, but if you haven’t responded n 15 minutes I’ll assume I won and you lost like “the other guy”, because that’s how stuff works.

Right I forgot, everything is subject therefore nothing is a cheat.
Also 3rd person view is somehow more egregious than cheaty sense, but also YOU banned cheatysense for hashtag reasons, TopTen works in mysterious ways.

So as one of the EU TopTenner “owners”, why don’t you whitelist it?

P.S. Fixed it, sorry for not crediting you by name.

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Hot take but I think Healthbars should be a in the base game

HOWEVER, with the following limitations:

  • Not being able to see healthbars behind walls
  • Not being able to see healthbars of enemies behind enemies
  • Only seeing the HP of the enemy you’re aiming at

if you say so

it is just not only this mod but ok
hiding vfx is simply cheaty, period

not really? you lost already in the begin since you are just not even trying to be constructive, only annoying and trying to argue for the sake of arguing

“accidentally” that’s actually a lie

Is it cheaty? yes

is stupid blight spreads and rotten armour over saturated with unneeded vfx that helps nothing and reduces your FPS? also yes

And to be fair even Vermintide 2 has settings to disable a lot of vfx (mainly impact vfx, which I modified a mod to completely disable impact vfx)

I’d honestly prefeer not to disable VFX, since knowing more is better, but when said VFX is blinding on something that is supposed to NOT be blinding (for example, flame staff fire, which it isn’t blinding in VT2 but still clear enough to understand it’s fire but in DT is extremely blinding)

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Cutting it close! Double-oh-Ten.

LOL go ahead, prove me wrong, prove that I’m lying and embarrass me here, I asked you more than once over the years, still waiting. The files are still there are they not? Do you need help installing mods?

And your Amelia’s Amnesia kicking in:

If someone says from the start that many mods are cheating they can’t make mods of their own? You’re the only one flip flopping, like here you are claiming gpgk is the one being annoying for the sake of it when you admitted already you think this mod is excessive. So who is making pointless posts then? He was never inconsistent on his opinion of mods, you just keep finding new ground to shift to stay ahead of all the hearsay and haters. Another big strong personality WE WILL break on the wheel of this forum. They all do! Much of the top 10 EU council has already repented and been saved.

the mod that changes vfx of the gas from tox bombers also it is very of a big advantage since the gas cloud original vfx tries also to obfuscate the view where with the mod it completely removes that aspect. but it’s not the end of the world, if people want to play with that and it gives also a benefit fps wise it’s ok. but the more mods you run the bad performance you actually have, regardless of the mods, the number of mods used it actually affect performance too, like modders said

you can try make it the vfx less invasive but hiding it completely not only it looks no sense but very cheaty, because it gives better view of the enemies and because of that makes it easier to dodge eventually because of the more awareness. it is clutter removed yes but it’s also some sort of cheating. the game was designed in a certain why. someone could argue that even the disable screen effects mod is cheaty while others an accessibility and qol mod. it just opinions

you playing with special tracker which also honestly it gives even more awareness of specials and units, even though you can mentally remember the amount of specials etc, with the mod it is simply not just easier but just precise. but it’s not that im going to judge cause i don’t care

and regarding the vfx some can be blinding but it was an internal choice of devs making it those like that, it doesn’t help the fact psykers can spam cause no real peril cost on it.
and btw back then they edited the surge staff vfx causing actual epilepsy to people that was actually a real problem. but they fixed it

and flamer vfx originally was different but they reworked it and made it different, originally it was even more bigger, even for others iirc.

Don’t get bogged down in their dishonesty. TopTen over there claims that my old mod REMOVES VFX (it did not, it replaced it) and the erroneous screen snippet I posted is actually the correct one, and that I edited the mod to cover it up after the fact so haha no cheats exist. This is all demonstrably untrue but they refuse to acknowledge it so they keep doubling down on their BS and shift the goal posts.

That being said, broken clock that they are:

This part is true, which is why as I’ve said, I searched for a proper replacement and found one thankfully, with a drawback to even it out.

Removing Tox Gas and Bubbles and crap goes too far if they don’t pose a health risk, they cross a clear and sensible intended line. That line is still not quite at the same level as say an ESP radar or HP bars, but it’s crossed.

Ironically it was the Tox Gas Removal that sparked a renewed debate vis as vis cheat mods, guess we should thank the cheaters in some way.

This is a real problem, you can replace it with the orange one or brown pukey one, I’ve begged them to tone this crap down in the past as the strain is annoying, I just stopped playing dark mode. A lot of the default VFX is way over the top, I only went after the most dangerous strobing ones as they almost sent me to the hospital. I was bedridden for more than a day with my eyeballs going crazy and I don’t ever want to experience that again nor would I want others to.

The recent Arby shock mines were nuts, and it’s one of the first thing I modded, I replaced the VFX w/ the non strobing tendril again.

Oh I didn’t mean that one, tox gas is SUPPOSED to be blinding, so it does make sense to say it’s cheaty

It does save FPS tho, but yes that one specific aspect could be specified as cheaty

But bomber fire, flamer fire, barrel fire creating 5000000000 unneeded gas effects that isn’t really made to blind you as well as consuming super fps, are kinda doodoo and I think removing those isn’t exactly cheating

but yes changing tox gas is 100% cheaty IMO

I agree the premise, but until someone makes a less blinding flame mod instead of having to outright remove it, I can’t really consider that one cheaty

The issue is when something was obviously made to be instructive but not intrusive, but ends up being intrusive

There’s no chance in the world a Fatshark developer will come and say “yes, we made the Speed Stimm screen effect just to make it harder for you to see, a payoff for having increased attack speed”

No, that effect was made exclusively to inform the user they’re under the stimm effect, if someone wants to disable it, it’s absolutely not cheating at all

But something like Pox Gas from a Tox Bomber, disabling that is absolutely cheaty, since the intention is OBVIOUSLY to hide information to you and be a disturbance

On these specific 2 cases, I think it’s fair to say it’s NOT an opinion but something objective

Which is why I essentially disabled every special popup, and only left it for bosses (While it is objectively cheaty to know when twins spawn, It’s stupid that their sound don’t play correctly when spawning). I would call it “Boss Tracker” rather than Special Tracker at this point pfff

There are other cheaty stuff ofc, but if you’re gonna say something at least be fair about it asdasddasd

When this is the case I agree that altering it is cheating

But if dev intention is not to be blinding, but ended up being blinded (like the Speed Stimm example I mentioned), removing it is not really cheating, since the intention is to communicate that you have this buff

Unlike something like Burgle vomit or Tox Gas on the floor, which removing those is defenitely cheaty since it’s intentional that your screen/the area gets obfuscated

I’ll admit that is one of the better compromises I’ve seen, but frankly the idea of any in game health bars being present makes me want to violently throw up. I understand this opinion will not be universal but I frankly find it categorically unacceptable.

There is a point where prioritising utilitarian game design elements over all else just destroys atmosphere, immersion, or meaningful friction and to me any inclusion of health bars is taking a ginormous leap over that line.