Make More Events Like Convocation (Cataclysm)

[Radina.Shevu]

@Propaslamya

CoD from the drop down through the end of the event IS overturned compared to other maps.

This is just the case because FS continues to kill every decent end event, one after another, which got pointed out multiple times in this thread.

@Propaslamya

There is a REASON FoW isn’t on the normal map rotation and its because its difficulty is higher than its counterparts.

First the path to the end event gets pulled out of someones topper and now Convo gets compared to FoW.

[Incandescent]

@Propaslamya

CoD from the drop down through the end of the event IS overturned compared to other maps.

sounds like the other maps need tuning up

Also if you’re comparing Cata CoD to Cata FoW then idk what to tell you

the reason FoW isn’t in the quickplay rotation is because it’s functionally completely different from all the other maps, not because of the difficulty. Gee, I wonder why weaves aren’t in the standard quickplay rotation

[SlashKex]

I’m going to have to ask you to stop before this gets out of hand because nobody is telling anybody to get gud.

@Radina.Shevu

Are we going to start negging on the area BEFORE the event now?
If you think you cant simply bust the patrol just drop to the lower path. Non of the three possible Patrol paths take that one. Avoiding them doesnt require a degree in shadow magic.
If your team gets yeeted by an eshin you already screwed up by not leaving enough space between each other. By the time you play cata you know how this works and have noone to blame but yourself.

^This is advice. Nothing ever stops a team from dropping down to the left path. A team wipes because an assassin jumped on them on the bridge? It’s a mistake they won’t make again because next time, they’ll look around when crossing the bridge. Even if they didn’t hear an assassin, they’ll look around because they know that silent assassins are a thing.

@Radina.Shevu

The “random” spawns already got discussed and deemed to random, but not as crazy as some people wanna make them. Incan wrote about having taken a look into the event and even the worst the AI director can throw at you does not line up with the horror stories some people love to tell.

Unless someone can finally give a video to prove their point of this event being unfair and a total horror show its nothing but claptrap. It shouldnt be hard to deliver one, since everyone and their neighbor encountered every sort of busted behavior constantly.

^This is asking for evidence. A video or gameplay segment we can dissect. Maybe to offer advice for the player in question and see how one of these extreme examples of the Convo finale going bonkers, plays out.

None of what Radina wrote is about telling people to get gud.

As Velsix has aptly demonstrated, a video leads to discussion. Since this thread is slowly turning into another Convo-too-hard-but-I-cannot-press-the-record-button-to-get-10-minutes-of-footage, I’m with Radina. Give me something to look at otherwise EVERYBODY will simply be working with hypotheticals and their own experience.

Or I can go and stream Cata convo for 3 hours. Either works for me but at the least both will give this thread actual gameplay to look at.

[Adelion]

Suggestion: Instead of discussing in yet another thread the ups and downs of CoD maybe (maaayybbee) we start discussing on how to potentially improve other terror events to be more challenging and equally more interesting and fun.

While there is always the general solution of more spam I would personally prefer more unique solutions to each and every event.

[alsozara]

@Adelion

Suggestion: Instead of discussing in yet another thread the ups and downs of CoD maybe (maaayybbee) we start discussing on how to potentially improve other terror events to be more challenging and equally more interesting and fun.

Here here! Personally I think a number of events could probably use a monster thrown in like righteous stand has. Also helps the problem when monster killing builds often not having enough monsters to make them worthwhile.

Would love to see some specific suggestions here on how to adjust end events to make them more challenging.

[Radina.Shevu]

Fort B could get less stale by increasing the number of cannonballs you need to transport. Each time you pick one up extra specials spawn plus some elites get triggered. The second or third ball will ontop of that trigger a monster, without a firewall. You can either kite it until the event is done and you can leave, or kill it.

If all three balls are available for pickup as soon as the “defend the gate” part is done, the group can decide if they take all of them at once, and trigger everything, or do it slowly. The cannon aiming/turning part might need to be sped up slightly to not end up being a slog.

It surely would need some testing and maybe some more spawn points for the balls, but to an idiotes like me, this doesnt seem too outlandish to be made a reality.

[Propaslamya]

@Adelion

While there is always the general solution of more spam I would personally prefer more unique solutions to each and every event.

I appreciate this. I understand that the PC community is very vocal on what they want and that the most skilled players that can trounce just about everything are going to say the game is easy ( lol )

On console Xbox, we had our first team of 4 beat weaves last week.

The top 100 on ranked weaves starts at 45 or so.

When I queue up for cata, its the same 20 or so people playing. I can tell by clockwork on what time of day it is who I’ll be playing with, and its usually 1-2 bots.

Its exceptionally rare to find players on Xbox that can even beat cata 1, let alone CoD.

Most folks on console play Champion/Legend and even the legend runs work better with bots most of the time ( I play m/kb)

Maybe the console players experiences here are different ( I doubt it)

Given the reality that FS would just cross increase from PC to Xbox, I’m just going to BEG that they find other solutions that make the hardcore PC community happy because the sheer number of special spawns on CoD coupled with controller input and our FPS/increased hp is crippling on console.

When I QP legend on console and get CoD, I just dodge the lobby because the failure rate is just so ridiculous even though I can PERSONALLY win it with bots.

On cata, if I pub QP into CoD, I also just dodge the lobby and wait until my crew gets on.