This lol. Some people are trying too hard to learn all breakpoints and every number, meanwhile you can just faceroll this game with button mashing after few tests in psykanium and take what you intuitively find to be good.
On the knife topic - mobility is overpowered in DT, imo. Like Kerillian daggers in V2 has a dogshit range, so controling horde is quite hard with them, cause trash mobs are more agressive and one poke eats 1/3 of your HP, and if you was swarmed you must use your ultimate or go in defensive state.
In DT on other hand itās easy to escape if you made a mistake and pulled more than you can handle. Weapon range it feels doesnāt play signifficant role cause how dodges and dmg are boosted.
As I mentioned in some thread, if weapon has high mobility and attack speed, its deffensive tools should be a dogshit then, there should be a clear trade.
I donāt think the fact that knife has fewer bad blessings than other weapons is a bugā¦ itās most of the other weapons that are bugged.
Knife is also hardly the only melee weapon itās possible to do really well with. I donāt have super strong opinions on the balance of it, but I know for sure there are weapons / blessings /blessing pools Iād want dev time spent on buffing and improving, way before Iād want dev time spent on doing anything to knife.
Yeah. I also donāt agree with OP that the blessings are interchangeable. Theyāre really not. The total critrate of your build determines if Flesh Tearer or Lacerate is the best option. The difference can be really significant.
Similarly rending on backstab and rending on weakspot are not interchangeable at all, and are good at very different things.
Yeah I donāt have a knifevet (yet), but rending is certainly (in my opinion) mandatory on Zealot, and uncanny is leaps and bounds more useful than backstab.
(Not least of which because you can totally hit weakspots from behind )
I only quickplay, and even if Iām bringing a knife (stealth or FotF build) I need to know I can reasonably deal with a surprise pack of crushers/maulers on my own, if the team isā¦ not good or simply otherwise occupied. Thereās range weapons that could somewhat fill that niche of course, but like you say, bleeding them to death is good fun. And very useful.
Itās definitely more reliable for impromptu war criming.
Riposte with MK 6 can take out crushers just fine with pushstabs with the insane crit rate you can have while being able to absolutely destroy hordes with its insane crit, but yeah instant reliability and just being able to m1 spam just as effectively (or almost anyways) is easier therefore better in more situations than not.
Things being brain dead is an underrated component of what can make a weapon good. If you have to devote zero brain power to it you can pay attention to a lot more stuff.
I havenāt found myself able to like the MK6 yet. Iāve tried to, but the heavies just seemā¦ not good? I donāt really think they hordeclear better in any meaningful way, and theyāre straight up worse for single attack.
Not really. One thing about the dagger is that because its mobile as it is (for sprinting specifically if nothing else) players who are bad with it tend to get themselves into trouble instead of out of trouble far more often since they arenāt able to handle even a special wave on their own.
They also think they need to run away from their team when daggers mobility should be used to run TO it after you protect a back flank, pick up resources, or run stimms to teammates etc.
Iāve used the original mk iii knife on zealot for as long as I can remember.
I donāt feel Iāve ever struggled with horde clear. Circle-strafe them in to a ball and they all bleed out pretty quickly. Iāve tried Turtolsky, axes (I use combat axe on Vet), chainsword, and more recently the crusher(fun!)ā¦ I donāt find them better though. Only times I come unstuck is face to face with a crusher, go to dodge, and I canāt move because thereās a poxwalker thatās shuffled up silently.
My knife I think has Lacerate (for easy crit gen) and Mercy Killer - only because thatās what I have, not through choice necessarily. And I have +2 stamina and +5% crit chance on it for QoL.
I would argue that the knife I have isnāt overpowered. I donāt cut through specials and armoured elite particularly quickly with it, relying on my ult to help with that or switch to a gun to help. My experience there differs from the OP. When I next get a knife to craft on, Iāll try with a rending skill and see if that changes things.
But generally, I donāt think itās poor at dealing with volumes of enemies. The mobility you get really lets you slice and run, putting dots on loads of things. Though this is all on the zealot - IDK how it stacks up on the vet.
Probably BiS on vet as a ranged build because of kiting power, and BiS on vet as melee because of its insane damage with 75% crit rate.
Hell, with just reciprocity, and desperado the dagger can absolutely wreck hordes while reliably 3 swiping ragers meaning you can still be like 90% of a ranged build while being that powerful in melee.
buddy, every single one of your posts here is about the great virtues of spamming dodge and dealing high single-target damage. itās a you problem, you just consider your team as a problem to be dodged.
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